Su flight model please
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Thanks Ram for your informative and usefully post.
Your attention to detail is just the key I needed to tweek those lift/drag relationships.
Im just a simple Electrical contractor with some engineering qualification trying to enjoy my remaining time.
So if your got something usefull or want to test fly it, that would be great.
Thanks ……Shad
PS: the point was can I get it to do what the real SU does or even close enough. And I have:munch:
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Shadow, does the BMS database include the carrier based Su-30Sm fighters? If so, does your AFM change thier flight performance?
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Shadow, does the BMS database include the carrier based Su-30Sm fighters? If so, does your AFM change thier flight performance?
The only carrier based Sukhoi variant is Su-33 which is not Su-30 descendant. In /sim there are spearated dat files for each Sukhoi variants, only question that DB uses or not them.
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Shadow, does the BMS database include the carrier based Su-30Sm fighters? If so, does your AFM change thier flight performance?
Hi Chuckles, thanks for your interest. Its as Molni stated. This FM is in reality a SU with Thrust vector nozles. The SU-MKK was the convientent model to test/play with as it is in some of the established campaigns.
So if you install it save the original & go fly red. Its less of a wet paper bag now. Not as fast as a F-15e or Block 50/52 down low but better then it was. And carries a wide selection of A2A/A2G ordance.
Also this is only the OFM not a AFM. Also if it was submited for consideration as a “SU-30mkk” OFM its AOA abilities would be some what curtalied/reduced from the above file offered for preview.
Regards
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Thanks Ram for your informative and usefully post.
Your attention to detail is just the key I needed to tweek those lift/drag relationships.
Im just a simple Electrical contractor with some engineering qualification trying to enjoy my remaining time.
LOL, your welcome, I’m just a simple Baker, HAHAHA
I have the FM, but I can’t check it out right now, it’s snowing and it’s cold as hell, gimme 3-4wks and I’ll be on it.
RAM22
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Hi Ram , Hot and muggy here, so take as falcon long as you need.
Cheers buddy
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Some crude video footage
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wow great …
Looks a bit slow more like a snail F-22 then a fast SU-30 but for sure it’s very impressive…
Also to add here: PLEASE 3d Magicians look at the miracle here and do a pit for this wonder…
Back to Subject… As VTOL is implemented couldn’t this be added to SU’s with thrust vectoring or I’m talking bullshit here?
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I dont think VTOL and SU go together but its got grunt and plenty of lift for short takeoff.
EG the navel Su-33.
It comes into its own at altitude, low its a bit slow.
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@Tom:
Great news! Hope my 3D model will help a bit….
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/3815/20121231164146.jpg
vector thrusted …
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/9350/20121231164537.jpg
animated gears and brakes…
http://imageshack.us/a/img259/6494/20121231164638.jpg
small stabilisators on the nose…
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/9536/20121231164750.jpg
I`ll upload soon if you want- Cheers,
TomYes Tom as I PMed you im very interested in getting those files.
Regards …Shad
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Shadow, does the BMS database include the carrier based Su-30Sm fighters? If so, does your AFM change thier flight performance?
The Su-30SM is not a carrier-based fighter, unless something new has happened that I do not know about. The 'SM is a Russian version of the Su-30MKI. Therefore, should the flight model development reach a state where you can accurately simulate the MKI, you ought to be able to simulate its Russian counterpart as well.
The only navalized Russian two-seater I know of is this somewhat odd bird:
…The Su-33KUB.
For the Chinese Su-30MKK and MKK2, you’d probably have an easier time making flight performance more realistic. Those fighters do not have canards, and I think they only have the Al-31F, which is not a thrust-vectoring engine. Thus, dynamics ought to be easier to compute.
Unfortunately, the best resource I have available at this time is Wikipedia for initial assessments on airframe capabilities. I’m not really sure if the MKK has any advantages at all over the MKI/SM. The MKK page seems to indicate some airframe strengthening, and I’m not sure this applies to all members of the upgraded members of the Su-30 family.
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Those pesky russian Jets again…
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/20-07-2009/108253-su27-0/
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Those pesky russian Jets again…
http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/20-07-2009/108253-su27-0/
Bummer… would have been cool to read in what specific regimes the Flanker dominates. In Russia plane fly you.
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Su-35 @ Salon Bourget
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wow great …
Looks a bit slow more like a snail F-22 then a fast SU-30 but for sure it’s very impressive…
Also to add here: PLEASE 3d Magicians look at the miracle here and do a pit for this wonder…
Back to Subject… As VTOL is implemented couldn’t this be added to SU’s with thrust vectoring or I’m talking bullshit here?
yes, thrust vectoring is implemented in BMS…however, without the flight laws ruling the thrust vectoring…nothing can be done
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Su-35 @ Salon Bourget
imho the SU27 family is the most magnificent aircraft ever created….simple, pure, efficient, beautiful
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This is where there should a “Tagnight” post.
****** FLY IT NOW**********
Im not a coder but if we just but BMS & DCS togerthe. Like WOWReread my original Post NOW.
I can’t do it as well as “Skyman” God bless his soul at his new home.
We miss you……
I forgot the 38 utube links…later
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If any one has the time, passion & desire to help out here ?
I need some one with the required expertise for the "inertia/CG " parameter.
Thanks……Shad
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Allmost two years now……
A tagnight link … https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?8453-Su-flight-model-please&p=104724&viewfull=1#post104724