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    Wingtip lighting flashing or steady?

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    • Bertuz
      Bertuz last edited by

      Hi all,

      Has anyone has a clue when a real pilot switches their wingtip lights from flashing to steady? Is there a official procudure, or does it differ between squadrons?

      Like when starting the engine, when they are ready to taxi, when taxiing, in flight, approach?

      Thanks in advance

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      • Blu3wolf
        Blu3wolf last edited by

        Check squadron SOPs. Wingtip lights are per SOP and not detailed in the dash.

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        • Bertuz
          Bertuz @Blu3wolf last edited by

          Ok thnx! I’m not sure if asking about RL SOP’s is in violation with the following forum rule. If so, please close the topic. Don’t want any trouble. I’m just interested in RL procedures.

          2. Copyrighted/Classified Material: Posting of content which is classified in any manner such as FOUO (for official use only), export controlled, or contains any corporate, or government classification more restrictive than “unclassified”, and/or is wholly or partially the intellectual property of another organization or individual will result in the content being removed, and will result in a ban for any user who posts such material.

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          • Amraam
            Amraam @Bertuz last edited by

            Real SOP’s are not confidential. you can find some in the web.
            In belgium, lights drill are following (at least at Florennes AFB) :

            • startup : steady - strobe off
            • ready to taxi : flash - strobe off
            • when the aircraft move : flash - strobe on
            • hold short, not ready to line up : steady - strobe off
            • hold short, ready to line up : flash - strobe off
            • line up : flash - strobe on.
            • in flight : flash strobe on (at day), steady strobe off for inner aircraft (example : 1, 2 and 3 in a flight of 4 aircraft) (at night) and flash strobe on for the outer aircraft (in example : number 4 in a flight of 4 aircraft).

            The idea is simple : on ground, the flash indicate that you are ready for the next step (taxi / line up), steady you are not. The strobe indicate the aircraft is moving.
            in flight, at night, the inner aircraft need to be steady (flashing light caused wrong range illusion) and without strobe (can blind the aircraft in close form). The outer aircraft, because nobody need to take close up formation to him, will “mark” the flight with the flash strobe for the other flights.

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            • Blu3wolf
              Blu3wolf @Bertuz last edited by

              posting links to for example, the aforementioned RL squadron standards would be against that rule. Asking about the standards is not violating it though.

              unfortunately the poor moderation team is pretty overworked, so the rule is only enforced when it is noticed. Id still recommend being safe by not posting content which will give them a reason to enforce it!

              Asking questions is okay, posting classified or FOUO documents is not. Clear?

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              • Blu3wolf
                Blu3wolf @Amraam last edited by

                @Amraam:

                Real SOP’s are not confidential.

                The last SOPs I saw were for the 157th swamp foxes (US) and those were marked FOUO - which is now not allowed on the forums. so some SOPs are still not allowed.

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                • Red Dog
                  Red Dog @Blu3wolf last edited by

                  All airforces are different
                  All squadron within the same airforce are different

                  BMS is an entity on its own
                  All BMS vfw are different

                  Bottom line: do what you want , you can’t be wrong 🙂

                  unfortunately the poor moderation team is pretty overworked, so the rule is only enforced when it is noticed.

                  as with all rules mate 🙂
                  you don’t get fined on the motorway when you speed up unles you’re caught 😉

                  Red Dog
                  Reality if for ppl who can't handle simulation

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                  • Raptor
                    Raptor @Red Dog last edited by

                    Strobes on latest blocks also have patterns, so you also see who-is-who on the formation with radio off.

                    Some quite good features for future implementation, the standard lighting panel is obsolete nowadays.

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                    • Blu3wolf
                      Blu3wolf @Red Dog last edited by

                      @Red:

                      as with all rules mate 🙂
                      you don’t get fined on the motorway when you speed up unles you’re caught 😉

                      Well this is pretty tangential, but its only that way with rules that require judgement calls…

                      anything which has simple detection and little to no human interaction tends to invalidate that. Unfortunately I dont think computers will get smart enough to replace moderators any time soon!

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                      • Shadow
                        Shadow @Blu3wolf last edited by

                        Its only a crime if you hurt someone, I want too hurt someone 😉

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                        • Icarus
                          Icarus @Blu3wolf last edited by

                          In BMS, since all the monkeys flash all the time, we go steady to show human pilots are ready to go in MP. In SP it does not matter, you can flash like all the monkeys. Most important rule is no Christmas trees after fence out. Not very realistic, that.

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                          • SnowSky
                            SnowSky @Icarus last edited by

                            Isn’t it fence in? Or did I get it the wrong way?

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                            • Blu3wolf
                              Blu3wolf @SnowSky last edited by

                              It is fence in yes.

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                              • Agave_Blue
                                Agave_Blue @Icarus last edited by

                                @Icarus:

                                In BMS, since all the monkeys flash all the time, we go steady to show human pilots are ready to go in MP. ……

                                We do the same for MP.

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                                • ASharpe
                                  ASharpe @Red Dog last edited by

                                  @Red:

                                  Bottom line: do what you want , you can’t be wrong 🙂

                                  Flying into combat will all your lights on is pretty wrong.

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                                  • Dee-Jay
                                    Dee-Jay @ASharpe last edited by

                                    @ASharpe:

                                    Flying into combat will all your lights on is pretty wrong.

                                    … not if enemy is trying to wear NVGs during dogfight 😉

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                                    • Blu3wolf
                                      Blu3wolf @Dee-Jay last edited by

                                      @Dee-Jay:

                                      … not if enemy is trying to wear NVGs during dogfight 😉

                                      Would they though? I would have though the missile plume would blind you.

                                      Those kind of effects would be cool to see in BMS. Dunno if you could easily do that with DirectX 9.0 though.

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