Use simulator via the keyboard
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good evening. I wonder if this is like playing simulator alert by computer keyboard without joystick …
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There are some out there that use only the keyboard. However, it is highly advisable to get a HOTAS if possible.
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I am oftern away from home and whilst I do have a small joystick, I am often in situations where I can’t bring it along. Keyboard and mouse became the flight control. I could dogfight against AI without problem, after practicing a bit.
What I would highly advice, though, is that you take some time to redo all the keystrokes yourself. Keep in mind about what keys you usually use together (eg radar cursor and TMS hat) and make sure that, if you use modifiers like shift or ctrl, they have the same modifer. I found the default one is not the most friendly for just using keyboard and mouse.
I am not with my computer now, but I could upload my keystroke file for you to take a look tonight.
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please if possible put your file for me to test here
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I uploaded them here
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ww816tluirr2i1a/AACF7YJLSDo6YvA6nHSypBMCa?dl=0
There would be two files there, one is the keystroke file itself, and the other is key file generator of that keystroke file. (that generator you can find in BMS’s user/joystick/generic folder) The generator have a keyboard layout view so you can see where are the command easier.
This is created with laptop keyboards in mind, so number-pad and the page up/down cluster are not used. The basic idea is that :
- Most of the time your hand can rest on the WASD and arrow key cluster.
- the WASD cluster is the hat switches on the HOTAS
- the arrow keys are for flight control, radar cursor and trim.
- Pressing Shift key, the WASD became TMS Hat and arrow keys controls radar cursor.
- number keys are now controlling ICP and MFD buttons. Ctrl for left MFD, Alt for right MFD (+ shift for top and bottom row of MFD button)
- F1 to F4 control the dials on Counter Measure Panel. Dogfight switches are on F5 to F8
- Shift + number are reserved for views-related commands, but I only assigned a few of the most often used internal views
- ; ’ ) are for things that have increments controls.
- Most switches that are start-up related (that are rarely need to be touched) are not included, you can access them with mouse.
Hopefully it would not be too confusing
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How would it even be possible to play this with a keyboard? It would be awful.
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I do it when trying to test things, fly with keyboard holding ctrl + shift, and look with the touchpad on laptop.
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Download the file here but as it does to install the turn in the game
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Martin Lee
Goodnight friend.
I wonder if that tutorial you sent to me on keyboards will use the pc not in the laptop being as it does to use the ailerons and rudder and elevator in the case Decer to climb and turn and turo more if fly with him? You want to learn to fly so because I want esperimentar the game and then I will buy a joystick ….
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Sorry to reply so late, I am having quite a lot of projects due pretty soon
But I am glad that the file is helpful
I’ve only made one for full sized keyboard, but with the use of joystick in mind. Anyway, I will upload that one tonight, I think for the most part you only need to modify the modifier keys for flight controls a bit.
EDIT:
Uploaded to the same link as above. There keyfile is ending with _DesktopKBM.key
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Martin_Lee my dear, I could fly and I am already doing missions grateful for the great help, Thank you very much the same ….
God be with you … Good Flights
Diego - Brazil -
For traveling, I sometimes used a PC gamepad, it can be used for manouvering, a bit like with RC planes. However, it is not very hot with switches control. You have to select which hat positions you model (with advanced dx+modifier key programming you could do more, but that is a lot of work) And the throttle is difficult to use, unless you break one of the hat springs. It is possible to have additive/subtractive throttle, but then you have to have some extra programs to grab the throttle position, and turn it into keyboard inputs.
In the end, I carry a lighter, but real, joystick for travels. It fits in a suitcase, and doesn’t weight much. For “backpacking” it would be too big.
The keyboard setup above sounds in fact quite interesting. I may check it out with the laptop.
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This thread is probably dead…but any one here ever figure out how to move the throttle with keyboard and mouse only with 4.33 ?.
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Actually not too much has changed in terms of keyboard controls between 4.33 and 4.32. There are some old callbacks removed and some new ones, some default keypress are changed.
There are three sets of throttle control callback:
1. Throttle up/down - This is pretty self-explanatory, throttle level moves up/down when you hold the key. It would not stop at the afterburner detent and the movement is a bit fast.
2. Throttle step up/down - There are some predefined ‘steps’ and each key press will move up/down one step. There are about 4-5 steps (need to verify later) from idle to full-mil, and each afterburner stage has its on steps.
3. Min/Max Afterburner - Self-explanatory again.Throttle step is my preferred method of flying with just keyboard and mouse. One reason is that the throttle up/down callback moves the throttle too quickly, and the fact that there is no AB detent means I could easily overshoot into afterburner. The second being the steps are pretty well placed, you only need a little bit fine adjustment (a tap on throttle up/down key) and you are good.
When you need to use afterburner, though, step up/down could be a bit too slow since there are quite a few stages of afterburner to go through. In this case I just use max/min afterburner. Quite a lot of times when I need afterburner, I usually need the max setting anyway (eg. dogfight). Min afterburner callback is useful as well because moving one step down would get you full-mil power.
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VJoy with bms 4.32 and 4.33 works on m my laptop from win7 to win10.
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Actually not too much has changed in terms of keyboard controls between 4.33 and 4.32. There are some old callbacks removed and some new ones, some default keypress are changed.
There are three sets of throttle control callback:
1. Throttle up/down - This is pretty self-explanatory, throttle level moves up/down when you hold the key. It would not stop at the afterburner detent and the movement is a bit fast.
2. Throttle step up/down - There are some predefined ‘steps’ and each key press will move up/down one step. There are about 4-5 steps (need to verify later) from idle to full-mil, and each afterburner stage has its on steps.
3. Min/Max Afterburner - Self-explanatory again.Throttle step is my preferred method of flying with just keyboard and mouse. One reason is that the throttle up/down callback moves the throttle too quickly, and the fact that there is no AB detent means I could easily overshoot into afterburner. The second being the steps are pretty well placed, you only need a little bit fine adjustment (a tap on throttle up/down key) and you are good.
When you need to use afterburner, though, step up/down could be a bit too slow since there are quite a few stages of afterburner to go through. In this case I just use max/min afterburner. Quite a lot of times when I need afterburner, I usually need the max setting anyway (eg. dogfight). Min afterburner callback is useful as well because moving one step down would get you full-mil power.
Thanks, I figured out the,step up/step down shortly after…I was trying the “up/down” originally and the key combination wasn’t working the throttle,but rather flipping my screen with the keys (i.e. arrow down flipper the display upside down)