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    • LJQCN101
      LJQCN101 last edited by

      Closer Look:

      Using Tom Catz’s Model Pack.

      Raw image without PS:

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      • razo
        razo last edited by

        Looks nice, just HOW??? 😛

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        • LJQCN101
          LJQCN101 @razo last edited by

          @razo:

          Looks nice, just HOW??? 😛

          Umm…Just learning to read the AFM NASA Tables. Edited the data a little bit. More info here: https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?22674-F-22-Double-Pedal-Turn-Demo

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          • Metalhead
            Metalhead @LJQCN101 last edited by

            Please my friend, show us if possible, that “cobra” maneuver used by Russian pilots.

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            • LJQCN101
              LJQCN101 @Metalhead last edited by

              @Metalhead:

              Please my friend, show us if possible, that “cobra” maneuver used by Russian pilots.

              Hello. Maybe pitching too slow.:p

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              • Mav-jp
                Mav-jp @LJQCN101 last edited by

                I like the fact that contrary to any other available sim of su27…you can make the cobra without any scripting 🙂 🙂

                Are you aware that by using the NASA flcs model in the am file (similar to the m2k) you have much more flexibility than using the LM real f16 flcs ?

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                • Metalhead
                  Metalhead @Mav-jp last edited by

                  Shadow is going to love this thread LOL

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                  • Demo
                    Demo @LJQCN101 last edited by

                    @LJQCN101:

                    Edited the data a little bit.

                    Just out of curiousity… what data did you edit in the FM?

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                    • Arty
                      Arty last edited by

                      Shadow only?
                      This is outstanding… WOW.

                      I’m pretty sure after that no one will DF against this.

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                      • TwoJay
                        TwoJay @Arty last edited by

                        Shad Still got those early vid’s of your Cobra’s?

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                        • MEK
                          MEK @Mav-jp last edited by

                          @Mav-jp:

                          I like the fact that contrary to any other available sim of su27…you can make the cobra without any scripting 🙂 🙂

                          Eagle Dynamics DCS Su 27 too! 😉

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                          • Creeper
                            Creeper @Arty last edited by

                            @Arty:

                            Shadow only?
                            This is outstanding… WOW.

                            I’m pretty sure after that no one will DF against this.

                            I’m fairly certain there’s a few out there who will, a zero/zero aircraft is a sitting duck for any stick who applies an energy vs angles approach.

                            Now that being said, yes: I agree. This is outstanding!

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                            • LJQCN101
                              LJQCN101 @Mav-jp last edited by

                              @Mav-jp:

                              I like the fact that contrary to any other available sim of su27…you can make the cobra without any scripting 🙂 🙂

                              Are you aware that by using the NASA flcs model in the am file (similar to the m2k) you have much more flexibility than using the LM real f16 flcs ?

                              Thanks a lot jp, Gonna look into it.

                              BTW is there anyway to change the onset AOA value where you can override the CAT Limiter? (35deg in a F-16)

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                              • LJQCN101
                                LJQCN101 @Demo last edited by

                                @Demo:

                                Just out of curiousity… what data did you edit in the FM?

                                Almost all the NASA tables in the -afm file. Those include a Cm table adapted from a RL (probably) F-22 graph and adjusted for a higher AOA operational ranges:

                                And Cl, Cn tables for better roll-yaw stability and control quality.

                                CY tables for better yaw maneuverability at high alphas. So that you can do something like the pedal turn.

                                And finally for the FLCS part. AOA onset value for the activation of departure & spin prevention system is changed to 180deg so you can get rid of it. Some limits are removed and pilots can have control of the aircraft at high AOAs.

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                                • LJQCN101
                                  LJQCN101 @MEK last edited by

                                  Double kulbit.🆒

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                                  • LJQCN101
                                    LJQCN101 @Arty last edited by

                                    @Arty:

                                    Shadow only?
                                    This is outstanding… WOW.

                                    I’m pretty sure after that no one will DF against this.

                                    But if the plane is poor at T-W ratio, then it will become a disaster…Try this TVC modified Mirage2000-5F:

                                    Always good to backup ur Data\Sim\ACDATA first:p

                                    Toggle MPO to Override position (=HOLD) and here you go.

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                                    • Jordan
                                      Jordan last edited by

                                      If it could help you, here is a doc I love about TVC

                                      http://www.maxant.co.uk/phd/ant_kutschera_phd_thesis.pdf

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                                      • Lukas
                                        Lukas @Jordan last edited by

                                        I really like “Double kulbit” video….what kind of “free camera” is used to do it?

                                        Or was it in MP?

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                                        • LJQCN101
                                          LJQCN101 @Lukas last edited by

                                          @Lukas:

                                          I really like “Double kulbit” video….what kind of “free camera” is used to do it?

                                          Or was it in MP?

                                          Just Eyefly View. You can activate it by adding “-ef” to launcher.exe as command line and enabling external mouse view.

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                                          • LJQCN101
                                            LJQCN101 @LJQCN101 last edited by

                                            Guys I’m not gonna release this Su-35 cuz there seems to have a mysterious bug with it. And also many other reasons for example, CL/CD data is the same as F-22 as in stock BMS4.32 and I don’t have the time or knowledge or software or hardware to create one from scratch; roll-yaw characteristics still not quite right in negative AOA regions; roll/yaw maneuverability still need to be tweaked especially at high AOAs; etc.

                                            However you can have a try on the modified M2K at post #16 to simulate how well can a TVC equipped angles fighter do against an energy fighter such as a F-16. You probably don’t want yourself be in high alpha all the time or you’ll hit the deck. Feedback is welcomed.

                                            PS: Why I choose M2K is also because it is fairly detailed modeled in terms of CL/CD/Thrust data. When at over 60deg AOA, you’ll experience a huge drag with almost no lift and you feel like being a speed brake.:D (or drag chute more precisely)

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