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    • Acrid
      Acrid last edited by

      Hello guys

      last night we encountered a previsible problem

      Some of us had Ip address v4 others had IP address V6.

      • IP V6 can’t host because UI doesn’t fit

      • mix between V4 and v6 seems to be smooth because we finally succeeded in flying together

      Anyone having experience on this subject ?

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      • hoover
        hoover last edited by

        Without ever having taken a glimpse at the F4 source code, I guess allowing ipv6 hosting shouldn’t be an issue as the underlying changes in the tcp stack should be transparent to nearly all applications handling tcp/ip in a sane manner. I’d also suggest allowing host DNS names) in the connect box (effectively turning it into a text field) so addresses are easier to remember.

        All the best, Uwe

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        • MrIch
          MrIch last edited by

          Any news here? Our providers here in Germany start to offer ipv6 with a provider nat for ipv4. So you are not able to host any public service unless using ipv6.

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          • spit
            spit @MrIch last edited by

            as long as the rest of the world is still using ip4 i think its no biggie to just use ipv4. For ipv4 to ipv6 conversion microsoft delivers the Teredo adapter

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            • Boxer
              Boxer @spit last edited by

              We haven’t done ANY testing on IPv6 whatsoever. Approach with extreme caution. No support for this yet so use at own risk and don’t worry about reporting issues for now. We are listening to try and figure out when it makes sense to have IPv6 support though…right now the perception is that not enough people have it to make it worth messing with…open to data that says otherwise.

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              Cheers,

              Mark.

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              • MrIch
                MrIch last edited by

                The two major cable providers do not offer any ipv4 addresses for new customers. For ipv4 they use some nat at provider level. So hundreds of customers share the same ip. This means all customers of these providers can not host any falcon game. Furthermore all customers who upgrade or change their plan will be affected as well. In the longer run this will happen to existing customers as well.

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                • thro
                  thro last edited by

                  @Boxer:

                  We haven’t done ANY testing on IPv6 whatsoever. Approach with extreme caution. No support for this yet so use at own risk and don’t worry about reporting issues for now. We are listening to try and figure out when it makes sense to have IPv6 support though…right now the perception is that not enough people have it to make it worth messing with…open to data that says otherwise.

                  Ipv6 support will make all the port forwarding NAT issues go away,

                  I have native ipv6 (dual stack) - given that many ip registries have already run out of ipv4 you can expect ipv6 to be pushed hard in the next couple of years.

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                  • Boxer
                    Boxer last edited by

                    @thro:

                    Ipv6 support will make all the port forwarding NAT issues go away,

                    I have native ipv6 (dual stack) - given that many ip registries have already run out of ipv4 you can expect ipv6 to be pushed hard in the next couple of years.

                    If IPv6 advocates had a nickel for every time some person said we’ll absolutely need it any second now… Lol…NATs are the big reason that the v4 address pool running out hasn’t pushed v6 over the top just yet… Given how darned ugly so many of the NAT implementations are that’s spectacularly ironic if you ask me. I’d love to see v4 long gone if it were up to me.

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                    Cheers,

                    Mark.

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                    • thro
                      thro last edited by

                      @Boxer:

                      If IPv6 advocates had a nickel for every time some person said we’ll absolutely need it any second now… Lol…NATs are the big reason that the v4 address pool running out hasn’t pushed v6 over the top just yet… Given how darned ugly so many of the NAT implementations are that’s spectacularly ironic if you ask me. I’d love to see v4 long gone if it were up to me.

                      Well it is starting to happen.

                      China has the biggest need for ip, and they have the smallest ipv4 allocation. Apnic ran out a while back…

                      All their new networks are being built on ipv6.

                      And yes. Nat was a stopgap. It’s a horribly broken hack network administration wise and needs to die 🙂

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                      • sthalik
                        sthalik @thro last edited by

                        Don’t see any problem. In any sensible socket API (BSD with getaddrinfo(3)/winsock), it’s enough to change the address family. Then it magically starts working.

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                        • Boxer
                          Boxer @thro last edited by

                          @thro:

                          Well it is starting to happen.

                          Indeed – even my local ISP is starting to hand out readiness for IPv6 tools.

                          And yes. Nat was a stopgap. It’s a horribly broken hack network administration wise and needs to die 🙂

                          “Amen hallelujah!” as the saying goes.

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                          Cheers,

                          Mark.

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                          • Kuhprah
                            Kuhprah @Boxer last edited by

                            Therefore I am glad that IPV6 will last a few more years here before they start… 🙂 Also have switched it of at my system. Absolout no need at the moment.

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                            • Snelle
                              Snelle @Kuhprah last edited by

                              I checked if ports 2934-2937 are open with simple port tester from pcwintech.com, and I noticed random failure with ipv6 on, disabling the ipv6 gave success on open ports.

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                              • sthalik
                                sthalik @Snelle last edited by

                                Never had any problems with IPv6 addresses assigned.

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                                • Graphic
                                  Graphic @sthalik last edited by

                                  No need for a new thread, so i thought i reopen this one…

                                  I’m now one of the lucky guys who is stuck with IPv6 because my ISP can’t give any IPv4 adress ranges away anymore. No more hosting possible for anybody who tries to connect with a IPv4 ISP. The only way to dodge the problem, is to host on a dedicatet Server which is connected to a IPv4 ISP.

                                  The other way around, connecting to IPv4 is no problem, which is in some way a relief, but hosting directly from my machine is from now on a NOGO - except anybody has a go around?

                                  http://www.121vfs.net

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                                  • ASharpe
                                    ASharpe @Graphic last edited by

                                    Could you possibly use something like Hamachi to side-step this issue?

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                                    • TKorho
                                      TKorho @ASharpe last edited by

                                      Finnish ISPs give automatically IPV6 now. However we most often can have the IPV4 as well - and I control my own NATs of course.
                                      But it would indeed be very interesting to use DNS names (and IPV6 sites).

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                                      • Graphic
                                        Graphic @TKorho last edited by

                                        @ ASharpe - Maybe, but not an option for a complete squad to go through the hassle seting up a VPN…

                                        http://www.121vfs.net

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                                        • ASharpe
                                          ASharpe @Graphic last edited by

                                          @Graphic:

                                          @ ASharpe - Maybe, but not an option for a complete squad to go through the hassle seting up a VPN…

                                          They’ve actually made it ridiculously easy with individual download and connection links that send you right to the VPN that sent you the link.

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                                          • Graphic
                                            Graphic @ASharpe last edited by

                                            Thanks ASharpe. It semms to be a work around and i will give it a try. But you know how it is with workarounds. It’s just another thing you have to keep an eye on, before you even get in the pit. I’m refering here also to newcomers who maybe struggle on the same thing and don’t know what maybe seems to be wrong. Of course, the problems are not based on falcon itself.

                                            A solution within Falcon would be best, but right now it could be only mentioned on the wish list caugh caugh 😉

                                            http://www.121vfs.net

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