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      LuciusEsox last edited by

      Hi all,

      Am in a bit of a dilema here. I currently run an R9 270x for Falcon and with an I5 4590 the game runs very nice. Thing is the card has only 2gb of Vram and one of the titles I play that is not enough so am upgrading. A 4gb R9 290 seems nice and would run on my psu ok (I think) but I want to change things over as Nvideas use a lot less power and seem to be a lot less hassle in a few more titles at the moment. No probs a GTX 960/970 would be a nice upgrade but I see that these cards have significantly lower scores for 3dmark 2006, which is pertinent for Falcon considering the engine is DX9. We are not talking a small difference here either it is of the magnitude x3 in terms of 3d mark 06 score in favour of the earlier R9 card. I could go far a second hand gtx 780 but I really wan’t 4gb of vram for a slight bit of future proof.

      As always, budget is a consideration 😞

      Any ideas folks ?

      🙂

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        LuciusEsox last edited by

        Actually no replies, am not suprised its a bit vague. Basically guys how does Falcon play on 960/970 with an I5 4590, anyone know ?

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          TxMtb @LuciusEsox last edited by

          If it helps I run a 970 with an i5-4670k at 5910x1080 (Bezel Correction), with most eye candy on, and have no issues.

          I7-12700KF, Asus Z690 D4 WiFi, EVGA 3080Ti, [email protected] Corsair Vengeance, H115i Capellix cooler, RM850 PS, 4000D Airflow, Thrustmaster Warthog, MFD's, TFRP pedals, 34" Samsung 1440p main display, 24" secondary with Helios.

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            LuciusEsox @TxMtb last edited by

            Ok, thx for the reply… I notice in unclocked state our cpu’s are pretty similar but sorry for my nubness I dont know what you mean by bezel correction. I run my game on a standard 24 inch flatscreen at native 1920x1080. In this configuration I have all the ingame sliders maxed out an everything seems very smooth.

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              Mower @LuciusEsox last edited by

              I am running a 4670k with 8gb ram and a 660gtx on full sim settings and have min 60 fps in campaign over the flot.

              Unlike AF, BMS does leverage the GPU so all of 2gb vram and 100% gpu is used, whereas say FSX by comparison only uses 1gb and 40%.

              So, I think its safe to say that BMS will benefit from the best GPU you can acquire, 4.33 even more so I would guess.

              GOTS…
              FalconAF to FBMS Conversion Guide

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                TxMtb @LuciusEsox last edited by

                @LuciusEsox:

                Ok, thx for the reply… I notice in unclocked state our cpu’s are pretty similar but sorry for my nubness I dont know what you mean by bezel correction. I run my game on a standard 24 inch flatscreen at native 1920x1080. In this configuration I have all the ingame sliders maxed out an everything seems very smooth.

                I’m running 3 24" monitors and use all three for the SIM. (Actually have a 4th 19" that has my MFD’s/RWR on it also).

                The bezel correction just makes the areas between the monitors appear as actual space behind the bezel.
                http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2685/~/what-is-bezel-correction%3F

                I7-12700KF, Asus Z690 D4 WiFi, EVGA 3080Ti, [email protected] Corsair Vengeance, H115i Capellix cooler, RM850 PS, 4000D Airflow, Thrustmaster Warthog, MFD's, TFRP pedals, 34" Samsung 1440p main display, 24" secondary with Helios.

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                  LuciusEsox @TxMtb last edited by

                  Aha, very nice indeed. Now that would be cool 🙂

                  I just went down to my local computer shop to have a chat with him about cards and I took my credit card… very nearly a BIG mistake :???: He started to talk to me about the relative power consumption of AMD v Nvidea cards. We got on to talking about the directx9 issue and being the good salesman that he is he pointed out I could sort that out with brute force, i.e. a GTX 980 which incredibly would still work with my psu. I found my hand twitching on my card which would be financial insanity at the moment and only the fact that the 2006 3d mark score was still appreciably lower stopped me, well I like to think it was common sense actually… Oh so nearly £550 worse off there… he was good !!

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                    Mower @LuciusEsox last edited by

                    Good move backing out, IMHO NOBODY needs a GPU that expensive for home use.

                    GOTS…
                    FalconAF to FBMS Conversion Guide

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                      LuciusEsox @Mower last edited by

                      @Mower:

                      Good move backing out, IMHO NOBODY needs a GPU that expensive for home use.

                      Yep, 🙂

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                        Agave_Blue @LuciusEsox last edited by

                        Same CPU (4590) and a 760 GTX card will almost all the eye candy turned on (only focused shadows are off) and 60+ FPS in almost all circumstances, including the more demanding theaters (i.e. BfB). As I understand it, the 960 is the current ‘version’ of the 760.

                        For me it seems that BMS is more demanding on the CPU than on the GPU. I would suggest you ‘lock’ the 4590 at it’s so-called ‘turbo’ speed of 3.7 GHz.

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                          Vyper @Agave_Blue last edited by

                          Just a word of caution about using 2006 3d mark as a basis for purchasing a video card. Both ATI (AMD) and Nvidia have been found to “boost” artificial benchmarks with drivers when sent out to hardware test sites. You are better off looking at actual game results than that style of benchmark since they are so easily manipulated with drivers. When it comes to Falcon BMS, both AMD and Nvidia cards do well. It just comes down to what you want. If you want lower power usage and cards that quieter, Nvidia is ahead in that area at the moment. If you don’t mind noise and efficiency isn’t an issue, AMD is performing just as well. Money wise, a GTX 970 will run a single 1920x1080 monitor with maxed eye candy just fine. Even the 960 will run it just fine. I would recommend the 970 for current and future gaming vs the 960, but that is just a personal opinion.

                          System: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Ultra, 64 Gb G. Skill Ripjaws V, EVGA 3080 FTW 3 Ultra, 3 x AOC 27" 2560 x 1440 144hz monitors,2 2 TB Sabrent Rocket 4.0, 256 Gb Samsung 960, 1TB Samsung 850, 2 TB Corsair MX500, Soundblaster AE-7, Logitech Z906 5.1 speakers, Virpil WarBRD base w/ TM warthog stick, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind Rudder pedals, TM Cougar MFDs, HP Reverb G2 VR headset and Logitech G815 and G903.

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