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    • haukka81
      haukka81 last edited by

      …because more i fly, more i think that ground textures are not up to rest of 4.33 awesome features.

      Those look great at 15000ft and up but low alt is mess, so much painted details like houses everywhere 😞

      Only good areas are forest ones, those look nice now that we have trees 🙂

      Sad that flare was abandoned, it looked clear and sharp.

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      • Mav-jp
        Mav-jp last edited by

        @haukka81:

        …because more i fly, more i think that ground textures are not up to rest of 4.33 awesome features.

        Those look great at 15000ft and up but low alt is mess, so much painted details like houses everywhere 😞

        Only good areas are forest ones, those look nice now that we have trees 🙂

        Sad that flare was abandoned, it looked clear and sharp.

        flare was not abandoned.

        it was included in 4.33 but looked unfortunatly not as good as it was said to be. by far

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        • haukka81
          haukka81 @Mav-jp last edited by

          @Mav-jp:

          flare was not abandoned.

          it was included in 4.33 but looked unfortunatly not as good as it was said to be. by far

          Can we (least me) get it anyway? Please 🙂

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          • Lawndart
            Lawndart last edited by

            I think low level flying is much better with trees and grass. Personally this is a ton better than 4.32 be happy with what we have it’s a huge step forward

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            • lightswitch94
              lightswitch94 @Lawndart last edited by

              ^+1 totally agree. We have this amazing SIM, for free no less, and I can’t imagine being stuck playing anything else. Thanks so much to the dev team and everyone involved in brining us this top notch simulator.

              Falcon Forever

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              • Mower
                Mower @lightswitch94 last edited by

                I, too, find the terrain in BMS very disappointing relative to DCSW’s.

                But that is not BMS Crew’s fault.

                FalconAF to FBMS Conversion Guide

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                • haukka81
                  haukka81 last edited by

                  Im happy what we have now, but lots could done with curent system. Less painted houses outside of cities etc… Would make it look much cleaner , now it really is weird to go below 10000ft and see All those Blue “houses” painted everywhere, its one step forward from 4.32 but step or two back. Trees and grass is nice.

                  Maybe someone will make nice “clean” ground textures someday 🙂

                  Even stock dcs is full of “city puke”

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                  • I-Hawk
                    I-Hawk @haukka81 last edited by

                    @haukka81:

                    Im happy what we have now, but lots could done with curent system. Less painted houses outside of cities etc… Would make it look much cleaner , now it really is weird to go below 10000ft and see All those Blue “houses” painted everywhere

                    Blue houses is Korean view, it’s realistic, you can look for pictures in GE.

                    @Mower:

                    I, too, find the terrain in BMS very disappointing relative to DCSW’s.

                    But that is not BMS Crew’s fault.

                    Yea… gimme 10-15 full time C++ and DX devs and I’ll give you new kickass terrain engine (but not without a 100$ bill per copy :mrgreen:)

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                    • b_bong12
                      b_bong12 @I-Hawk last edited by

                      with all the cockpit work i doubt u’ll have the chance for sight seeing 🙂

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                        Guest @b_bong12 last edited by

                        My favorite ground texture feature so far is the noise they add in when you get close to the ground. It is awesome! It is exactly what they did with EECH and really helps low level flight feel faster and easier to judge distance to the ground.

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                        • haukka81
                          haukka81 @I-Hawk last edited by

                          @I-Hawk:

                          Blue houses is Korean view, it’s realistic, you can look for pictures in GE.

                          Yea… gimme 10-15 full time C++ and DX devs and I’ll give you new kickass terrain engine (but not without a 100$ bill per copy :mrgreen:)

                          Color is not problem, you don’t understand what i mean.

                          Problem is that those Blue houses (and other details) are painted in ground 🙂

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                          • Mav-jp
                            Mav-jp @Mower last edited by

                            @Mower:

                            I, too, find the terrain in BMS very disappointing relative to DCSW’s.

                            But that is not BMS Crew’s fault.

                            i feel the same

                            i find some bms users very disapointing compared to DCS ones.

                            at DCS they pay hundreds of € for a POS and dint even complain, 😉 😉

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                            • Mav-jp
                              Mav-jp @haukka81 last edited by

                              @haukka81:

                              Color is not problem, you don’t understand what i mean.

                              Problem is that those Blue houses (and other details) are painted in ground 🙂

                              building autogen is possivle but will cost more fps.

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                              • haukka81
                                haukka81 @Mav-jp last edited by

                                @Mav-jp:

                                building autogen is possivle but will cost more fps.

                                That would be great.

                                Are there anyway to get trees to solid btw? I can fly trough those for now 🙂

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                                • Mav-jp
                                  Mav-jp @haukka81 last edited by

                                  @haukka81:

                                  That would be great.

                                  Are there anyway to get trees to solid btw? I can fly trough those for now 🙂

                                  not really possible.

                                  detecting ground type in the fm loop would cost more fps besides it would mean possible collision in between trees.

                                  therefore we made the choice to not make collision on that level since bms is not a heli sim

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                                  • Lukas
                                    Lukas @Mav-jp last edited by

                                    I did not check it yet, but is the tree model stored in database ?… and is it editable?

                                    I always hoped it will not be harcoded when finally activated…

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                                    • Mystic_J
                                      Mystic_J @Mav-jp last edited by

                                      Polak tiles are the best ones for Korea right now. Great quality and a close match with reality. Just check the general Gunsan area to get convinced. Flare’s tiles was a big disappointment IMHO. Nothing great. Hence, live with what you get atm.

                                      https://ibb.co/5jXP4nm
                                      https://www.friskyradio.com/

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                                      • haukka81
                                        haukka81 @Mav-jp last edited by

                                        @Mav-jp:

                                        not really possible.

                                        detecting ground type in the fm loop would cost more fps besides it would mean possible collision in between trees.

                                        therefore we made the choice to not make collision on that level since bms is not a heli sim

                                        I agree, collision is not critical for fighter jet sim 🙂

                                        And i don’t wanna sound that im not happy with 4.33 , even with those ground textures its still huge step forward and my favorite sim again.

                                        Dcs terrain is quite nice but i cant fly it much because no dc campaing system or any feeling that my mission has anything impact to next.

                                        So my only choice is falcon BMS and thats why i really wish that terrain would get better. Flare looked nice , it was nice least those old screen shots. (Less 2d houses etc details in terrain)

                                        But i will live and play what we have for now 🙂

                                        Thank you All.

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                                        • BANITA
                                          BANITA @haukka81 last edited by

                                          Now terrain looks great ,it can always be better but what’s the argument?
                                          There will always be a few dcs trolls as haukka or mower who will complain, ignore.

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                                          • haukka81
                                            haukka81 @BANITA last edited by

                                            @BANITA:

                                            Now terrain looks great ,it can always be better but what’s the argument?
                                            There will always be a few dcs trolls as haukka or mower who will complain, ignore.

                                            Only troll here is you, i have played falcon series from early 90’s and will play in future too.

                                            Critic is not trolling.

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