Running dedicated server w/o 3d graphics card

[robmypro]

I setup a vm yesterday to host a dynamic campaign for BMS (using it to seed BMS at the moment), as it has much better connectivity than my home internet connection does. This is a vm (runs vmware) but i do not think it has a 3d graphics card.

Any chance i can get this working? Right now launch leads to a black screen, then white, then a crash.

Edit: I found my answer using search.

[Vagabonds64]

Rob,

What was the solution?

Vags

[hoover]

I’d be be very interested in this, too. I haven’t read all the manuals yet except for the bms manual, so if there were any changes to the dedi server mp code I might have overlooked them.

Uwe

[delenda]

Yep, definitely possible. I’ve had a dedi running 4.32 on Ubuntu for a few months now.

Currently converting it to run using Docker & update to 4.33.

Cheers,

Del

[robmypro]

The only thing i found was that a 3d card was required, so i am definitely interested in learning how delenda does it.

[Reaper58th]

The Server HAS to be in 3D or position updates etc. won’t work properly. AFAIK this is still the case in 4.33.

[hoover]

@delenda:

Yep, definitely possible. I’ve had a dedi running 4.32 on Ubuntu for a few months now.

Currently converting it to run using Docker & update to 4.33.

Cheers,

Del

Maybe we can get together for some further online testing some time? Being able to run a dedi server on Linux would be a dream come true, but I guess that “positional update” issue Reaper brought up needs further checking in a simple TE, AAR, maybe an intercept and doing some mud moving…

Cheers, Uwe

[delenda]

@robmypro:

The only thing i found was that a 3d card was required, so i am definitely interested in learning how delenda does it.

Suppose it depends what you mean by a 3d card. My server doesn’t have a separate graphics card and has quite an old basic Intel based graphics chip in the board. If you don’t even have an internal graphics chip then you might be stuck.

I’d be shocked though if there wasn’t one on the host machine that your VM could access. What OS are you using?

Hoover:

It was using wine and x11vnc to run BMS. Would be happy to have testers once I’ve got 4.33 sorted. I’ll distribute the Dockerfiles too (am doing a separate one for IVC), assuming they work in a container…

[hoover]

@delenda:

It was using wine and x11vnc to run BMS. Would be happy to have testers once I’ve got 4.33 sorted. I’ll distribute the Dockerfiles too (am doing a separate one for IVC), assuming they work in a container…

Thanks for the info delenda, let me know if I can help with testing. Which version of wine are you using? I messed around with one compiled from source not too long ago and it wasn’t too hard to get the TE editor to run on Ubuntu (which is what I was after at the time).

Cheers, Uwe

[delenda]

@hoover:

Thanks for the info delenda, let me know if I can help with testing. Which version of wine are you using? I messed around with one compiled from source not too long ago and it wasn’t too hard to get the TE editor to run on Ubuntu (which is what I was after at the time).

Cheers, Uwe

I’ve since wiped the server to upgrade so I can’t get you the exact number but it would have been the one in the 14.04 repository. Don’t remember having to compile wine for it.

I was shocked it worked tbh, even multiplayer was fine.

Yeah, sure, will let you know.

[robmypro]

@delenda:

Suppose it depends what you mean by a 3d card. My server doesn’t have a separate graphics card and has quite an old basic Intel based graphics chip in the board. If you don’t even have an internal graphics chip then you might be stuck. I’d be shocked though if there wasn’t one on the host machine that your VM could access. What OS are you using?

The server has an integrated graphics card, and I run Win 7. I select 3d graphics at the vm level, but BMS will not load on the vm.

[robmypro]

Update: the server motherboard does not have a 3D graphics card. It is a very basic one. I am going to say that delenda does have one, even if it is a basic one.

[thenach]

I do have a dedicated server with not screen connected nor a sound board.

Is running a intel Core i5-3570 with onboard inter graphic card that comes with it.
It has 16gb of ram with windows 2012 r2 64 bits.

Each time I try to start Falcon it crash and from what I have reading on other places you need a “3d graphic” card and even maybe a monitor / audio connected.
And interesting option is running it on a VM so you can simulate a 3d car / audio.

[delenda]

@robmypro:

Update: the server motherboard does not have a 3D graphics card. It is a very basic one. I am going to say that delenda does have one, even if it is a basic one.

It’s an Intel onboard graphics chip - definitely not a separate graphics card but yeah, sounds like you don’t even have access to one of those.

Not sure if you’ll have any luck maybe trying to trick Falcon in to running using a software renderer?

[delenda]

@thenach:

I do have a dedicated server with not screen connected nor a sound board.

Is running a intel Core i5-3570 with onboard inter graphic card that comes with it.
It has 16gb of ram with windows 2012 r2 64 bits.

Each time I try to start Falcon it crash and from what I have reading on other places you need a “3d graphic” card and even maybe a monitor / audio connected.
And interesting option is running it on a VM so you can simulate a 3d car / audio.

You definitely don’t need a monitor connected - I’ve had it running fine on just an Ubuntu box with no monitor.

You’ll need Direct Rendering to be working for the graphics but I can’t remember what I did about the sound last time. Think I might have used a dummy driver, so not having a sound card was no factor.

[delenda]

Quick update, got 4.33 going in a Docker container without a monitor or soundcard using the onboard Intel graphics chip. \o/

Edit: just realised I’m probably thread-jacking here - apologies to robmypro!

[thenach]

@delenda:

You definitely don’t need a monitor connected - I’ve had it running fine on just an Ubuntu box with no monitor.

You’ll need Direct Rendering to be working for the graphics but I can’t remember what I did about the sound last time. Think I might have used a dummy driver, so not having a sound card was no factor.

Thanks! I guess when you said Ubuntu you mean running wine?
Any chance to explain a little bit more how you make it run with Docker ?

I was able to run falcon on the same machine using virtual box, this is dirty solution. I also tried with Proxmox / hyperV and ESX and works.
Now if I try to run it on the same machine with windows server 2012r2 it does not run.

Explaining a little bit more… I think the problem is the no Audio card. My Server does not have one.

I run a virtual machine and on and executing falcon using the console with an emulated Audio and 3d card start with no problem as “simulated” as my actual server does not have one.
Now when I try to RDP to the same Virtual machine it does not detect the card and when trying to lunch Falcon it crash.

[robmypro]

@delenda:

Quick update, got 4.33 going in a Docker container without a monitor or soundcard using the onboard Intel graphics chip. \o/

Edit: just realised I’m probably thread-jacking here - apologies to robmypro!

No worries dude. Reading along to see how your setup goes!

[delenda]

Well in that case

Here’s a pic running in 3D mode…

[robmypro]

@delenda:

Well in that case

Here’s a pic running in 3D mode…

Nice. Too bad i don’t have a 3d card in the server. Bandwidth is good, which is good for seeding 4.33. Just not so good for running a dedicated server.