Block 52+ Advanced moving digital map
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That’s great! I think that the moving map with the selectable HSB overlay would be really useful!
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As long as map does not follow the scaling of HSD display…
- a new map is reuired with different colors, becaues if you overlay anything on current it is unreadable.
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Hi,
I think its a must to have this in BMS its useful but also damn looks good especially at night, looks amazing!
Also with these improvements would be nice also……
More Pics to use as examples……
Nice, Please if it helps!
Cheers,
:drink:
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SkyKnight,
Excellent find on the F16IN Sim vid and the MFD map layovers.
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That’s great! I think that the moving map with the selectable HSB overlay would be really useful!
Yes … if readable inside BMS.
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Hi Skynight!
@SkyKnight:
Hi,
I think its a must to have this in BMS its useful …
I do “partially” agree …
But please, explain me why it will be usfull? … or more precisely, what is the advantage of this colored moving map? (especially at night)…
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But please, explain me why it will be usfull? … or more precisely, what is the advantage of this colored moving map? (especially at night)…
- Situational awareness (feet wet/dry, mountainous/flat terrain)
- On-the-spot NOE route plotting, terrain masking or pull-up prediction
- Overlay of relevant chart info (e.g. basic airfield info) or areas of interest (instead of using steerpoint lines)
About the overlay of relevant chart info:
- Can it be coded that it will only appear when HSD is on EXP (1 or 2) or range set to
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Hi Skynight!
I do “partially” agree …
But please, explain me why it will be usfull? … or more precisely, what is the advantage of this colored moving map? (especially at night)…
Dee please do not try to push to get how that staff could be usefull … the option is … are the dev availaible and wants enough to do it … everything that concernes the feature as far as avionics is concened are made to help the pilot and the mission environment… thats why there are deferent tapes 3,4, 5 + of F-16 avionics… the moving map and the colourfull data in HSD helps the pilot …thats why the LM made it… the people here ask if these could be done since the specific sim also looks in the feature …and it is lights in front of other “sims” …
It is good to be implemented like more other…
It is on the hand o dev team the priority and the need of these…
here is a video that i get the picture and attached in the HSD…TIME 5.26
Also about reading it is also on dev team side to make it perfect readable or like now we need to zoom in via track ir like reality since the mfds are small….
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- Situational awareness (feet wet/dry, mountainous/flat terrain)
- On-the-spot NOE route plotting, terrain masking or pull-up prediction
- Overlay of relevant chart info (e.g. basic airfield info) or areas of interest (instead of using steerpoint lines)
Yep … but IMO, mostly for terrain elevation evaluation during night flight!
Can it be coded that it will only appear when HSD is on EXP (1 or 2) or range set to <x nm?<=“” blockquote=“”>IMO, everything is possible … but how does it actually work IRL?</x>
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I can think of situations, where this would be absolutely useful: i.e. attacking a heavy defended airbase where you have to go defensive because of too many SAMs and scrambles. While dodging SAMs and fighters you can get confused about your exact location on the map, all the planning and memorizing in mission planning gets lost. Your only way is an extreme NOE approach, but you will see the exact allignment to the runway very late. Also, location of AAA and mobile SAMs you did not see before the mission will be easier to evaluate for future mission planning (to destroy those unseen threats).
But IMO it would not be a total catastrophy, if we would not see this feature in the near future. But it would be nice and like many things in BMS must not be simulated to a totally 100 percent degree in depth as in real life (just relatively near). And it would be far more believable than the old moving knee map…
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Since being forced to use the HSD only I have found it to be very useful and I haven’t missed the picture map at all - so no big deal really - I suspect US birds wont have this anyway till the V upgrade comes in.
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… - I suspect US birds wont have this anyway till the V upgrade comes in.
V upgrade? What is that?
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Hi I gather you missed this …. Click link
Silly meeeeee I guess…:oops:
Cheers,
:drink:
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SkyKnight,
Are you not content with the current version of the F16?
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Are you not content with the current version of the F16?
I guess that many of our friends here are mastering all current avionic systems proposed by BMS!
BMS’s avionics is no more a secret for them and they knows all details and begin to be bored with current BMS modeled version…It is certainly why they wants all latest updates with new systems and more complex stuff.
Personally, I am impressed because I’m still learning every day … and even with around 2000H since 1998, I still need periodic trainings to keep my skills at an “acceptable” level.
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I guess that many of our friends here are mastering all current avionic systems proposed by BMS!
BMS’s avionics is no more a secret for them and they knows all details and begin to be bored with current BMS modeled version…It is certainly why they wants all latest updates with new systems and more complex stuff.
Personally, I am impressed because I’m still learning every day … and even with around 2000H since 1998, I still need periodic trainings to keep my skills at an “acceptable” level.
I’m very impressed too with their master skills, wish they could teach me …. oh i forgot they are to busy flying for FUN … hmmmm FUN
Spooky
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It’s amazing that if you’re not flying every week you actually get rusty. Walk away for 4 weeks and it takes 3-4 flights to get comfortable again!
Dee-Jay, 2000 Hours since 1998? I suggest a steady flight schedule of 20-30 hours a week!
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Dee-Jay, 2000 Hours since 1998? I suggest a steady flight schedule of 20-30 hours a week!
I made a long pause between 2001 and 2005 during my RL pilot formation.
So …
1998 to 2012 = 14years (-4years) = 10years
10*52 = 520weeks … 2000/520 = 3.8h/week
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@SkyKnight:
Hi I gather you missed this …. Click link
Silly meeeeee I guess…:oops:
Cheers,
:drink:
Since nobody has announce that they are buying that version (specially not the US) and since it don’t exist (only a propose model like the F-16IN) how does that relate at all to his comment?
@Migbuster:I suspect US birds wont have this anyway till the V upgrade comes in.
I can only assume he is referring to the Peace (insert appropriate name here, e.g. Xenia for Greece, Gate for Pakistan, etc) but those are only related to foreign aircraft sale and not related to USAF blocks ( and modifications) But since I do not know what he meant, I guess I will have to wait for his answer.
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Let me put my two cents. We have larger MFDs called MPDs in the 64. Block II aircraft with later Lot software series have moving map displays. It was painful to use them. You always had to declutter MPDs, zoom in zoom out to see clearly what’s on the map, green lines always blurred in with yellowish maps, constantly adjusted brightness. I always ended up turning the map overlay off. Never used VFR cross sectionals as overlays anyways, you’d need tactical maps. So as far realism goes, don’t implement maps don’t exist in the real thing just for the sake of having a map.