Block 52+ Advanced moving digital map
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Skyknight:
The point is even not if it’s useful or not. The point is “is the block 50/52 have it?” (I remember to you that is the objective of BMS). The answers is “NO”!.
Only the greek block 52+ and the block 30/32 above SCU5 or 6 (I don’t remember well). As soon Falcon can’t give external avionics for different aircraft, it will be stupid to code a map if the real block 50/52 USAF don’t have it. That’s all. End of story.
But of course, the other point about the MFD resolution still valid too. Falcon don’t have MFD resolution enough to give readable map. The only things you will see is a bunch of pixel. -
Skyknight:
The point is even not if it’s useful or not. The point is “is the block 50/52 have it?” (I remember to you that is the objective of BMS). The answers is “NO”!.
Only the greek block 52+ and the block 30/32 above SCU5 or 6 (I don’t remember well). As soon Falcon can’t give external avionics for different aircraft, it will be stupid to code a map if the real block 50/52 USAF don’t have it. That’s all. End of story.
But of course, the other point about the MFD resolution still valid too. Falcon don’t have MFD resolution enough to give readable map. The only things you will see is a bunch of pixel.Amraam correct the point that the USAF does not have them YET!! , but be in mind that not only USA people fly that sim… and it is healthy from people to ask for specific tapes(avionics) since that keep users to fly with that specific simulator …
the deference with all other sims are random deferents thaters which are many in WIP and random avionics for each country which are WIP …
do not tell me that the F-16 we are flying now is a block 50 !!!, it is little block 40 , little block 50 tape 2 and little block 52 tape 3 avionics … so to codeing requests for people is not stupid idea , since from that people you would get the reference you may need to create that avionics…
->so two options , in order to be clear …
Or the dev team make only one tape e.g USAF F-16 BLOCK 50/52 as close to real as free availiable reference can provided ? and none USAF users stops to requests specific imlementations!!!
Or make many deferent types of F-16 via configuration manager for most common F-16 users and community flyers , look HAF , IAF , THK , PAK , NoAF e.t.c in order to keep that people also interesting more and more but that need a huge amount of time and references which could be not availiable for deferent tapes…
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Moving map works fine in DCS A10C for no appreciable FPS hit, not in the block 52 okay, just saying it works fine when coded in.
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Amraam correct the point that the USAF does not have them YET!! , but be in mind that not only USA people fly that sim… and it is healthy from people to ask for specific tapes(avionics) since that keep users to fly with that specific simulator …
the deference with all other sims are random deferents thaters which are many in WIP and random avionics for each country which are WIP …
do not tell me that the F-16 we are flying now is a block 50 !!!, it is little block 40 , little block 50 tape 2 and little block 52 tape 3 avionics … so to codeing requests for people is not stupid idea , since from that people you would get the reference you may need to create that avionics…
->so two options , in order to be clear …
Or the dev team make only one tape e.g USAF F-16 BLOCK 50/52 as close to real as free availiable reference can provided ? and none USAF users stops to requests specific imlementations!!!
Or make many deferent types of F-16 via configuration manager for most common F-16 users and community flyers , look HAF , IAF , THK , PAK , NoAF e.t.c in order to keep that people also interesting more and more but that need a huge amount of time and references which could be not availiable for deferent tapes…
I know that they are not only USA people. Me too, I preferred to have some particular MLU things. But the current idea is the block 50. In the futures maybe we will have different avionics for different aircraft, with different cockpit. But for the moment, just think if somebody want a Carapace RWR with Color MAP of the 52+ and the FLIR of the block 40, and, oh yeah why not a little bit of avionics of block 30 on a single aircraft? I think you will find if crazy too ;).
Process step by step. For the moment i can confirm that the F-16 in BMS is a little bit of different tape (in fact, some is M2, but the DLZ and the Sniper comes to a M4), but all the last implemented avionics can be found in the block 50 ;).Just wait until the possibility to have different avionics for different F-16, each F-16 independent of a another. Then, maybe the time will comes to think about special avionics tapes.
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Or the dev team make only one tape e.g USAF F-16 BLOCK 50/52 as close to real as free availiable reference can provided ? and none USAF users stops to requests specific imlementations!!!
Or make many deferent types of F-16 via configuration manager for most common F-16 users and community flyers , look HAF , IAF , THK , PAK , NoAF e.t.c in order to keep that people also interesting more and more but that need a huge amount of time and references which could be not availiable for deferent tapes……
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The DEV team make what they want or think is good/achievable etc…
That make sense for you?
I know that they are not only USA people. Me too, I preferred to have some particular MLU things. But the current idea is the block 50. In the futures maybe we will have different avionics for different aircraft, with different cockpit. But for the moment, just think if somebody want a Carapace RWR with Color MAP of the 52+ and the FLIR of the block 40, and, oh yeah why not a little bit of avionics of block 30 on a single aircraft? I think you will find if crazy too ;).
Process step by step. For the moment i can confirm that the F-16 in BMS is a little bit of different tape (in fact, some is M2, but the DLZ and the Sniper comes to a M4), but all the last implemented avionics can be found in the block 50 ;).Just wait until the possibility to have different avionics for different F-16, each F-16 independent of a another. Then, maybe the time will comes to think about special avionics tapes.
Great explanations!
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@Dee-jay
Perfect sense my friend I know exactly what are you talking about…. we can not have every one everything requests, we can not satisfy all…AT THE MOMENT
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Someone read the useful info on the right MFD to me, what SA can you get out of it? When flying BMS, you are going to do neck in neck out exercises, that is all.
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Someone read the useful info on the right MFD to me, what SA can you get out of it? When flying BMS, you are going to do neck in neck out exercises, that is all.
Hmmm, i was a fan of it, but after trying to answer your question it reminds me what i noticed in DCS-A10C … you have to zoom in a lot to actually be able to read stuff …
From what i see on the right MFD i can only see where i am in regard to the shore line, where my zones are and what type of terrain elevation i have over land … else than that …
I know it’s maybe a bit off topic but when i flew on the Cirrus plane SR-20, you have glass cockpit, well it gives you a lot of info, but it’s even more difficult to sort out the right info from what you see, you get so much info that you are forced actually to turn down some info …it kinda beats the purpose.
And you need to zoom in with your head to use it efficiently … it’s good for quick S.A i guess.
Spooky.
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Bushmaster78FS, Spooky +1
I suggest it as an add-on in the BMS config under Mods with a checkbox next to it. It’s there if you want the realism.
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Or as an OSB function when in HSD page perhaps?
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Or as an OSB function when in HSD page perhaps?
In any case, if implemented one day, it will be as close as possible to real one.
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The “map” is selectable via mfd button if it will be viewable under HSD or only the HSD as per older blocks.
If and when ready to implement it have the option to ping me, but anyway i am pretty sure the proper hands have what they need.
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Bushmaster78FS, Spooky +1
I suggest it as an add-on in the BMS config under Mods with a checkbox next to it. It’s there if you want the realism.
Hi there,
I was reading the thread again is there a mod for this to download since their were screen shots with current F-16 Nanards pit in thread here also in my post…… https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?11004-Block-52-Advanced-moving-digital-map&p=144350&viewfull=1#post144350
I also agree it would be nice as a mod add-on to add and select in the BMS Config Editor, so please if someone can do that as a mod I would love it and also many in community would use it as a mod only.
Please let me know either reply or PM if there is a mod to download and install, and if there is please give me instructions how to install it, not very good with all software mod, file editing etc etc… stuff.
I use 1920x1080 screen resolution so it should not be a problem for me and others that have that setting.
That’s if a mod exists by someone in community I would love to use it, thanks!
So keen to know???
Cheers,
:drink:
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Talking for realism, this map is there only in HAF Block 52M (PX IV), Polish Block 52M, and Turkish Block 50 Advanced vipers, in generally new LM orders.
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moving map? nah mostly for strike missions and for good looks.
Link 16 first.
IFF before that.
IFF is vetoed.So another forum heat wave. passing….
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@mAXpOWER:
….vid…
LMAO!!:lol:
RAM22
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i come again with MAP in HSD…
There is some somution software created in viperpits…
i wonder if the code can implemeted in BMS 4.3X , in order to have MAP in HSD for updated F-16 blocks selectable via avionics config!!!
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=9818.0;topicseen
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It seems a bit dangerous to post in this thread: only on this page already three banned ex-members……
But seriously: there are more fighters with a moving map possibility, so implementation in BMS would be a very nice and realistic feature:
JA37:
Eurofighter
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yeah, we ban ppl only because they post here, it’s a well known fact