Topping off at tanker without screwing up TOT?

[jinro88]

I just can’t seem to figure this out. How do you give yourself enough time to top off at the tanker without being late at the Push or at target? TOT is locked at a certain time, and if you’re in a package you can’t delay the push point time either. If it’s your own TE, it’s simple: make departure time 15 minutes early. In campaign, not so simple. Departure time is set. Push time is set. TOT is set. Is there any way to do it in campaign?

[Gear5]

the time can be unlock, right?

[Frederf]

I’ve been able to change T/O time in campaign.

[jinro88]

TOT and Push time can probably be unlocked, but if you’re flying with a package (strike element, escort element, SEAD element) you would have to change their times too.

I didn’t know about changing T/O time in campaign. I thought that was locked.

[roach]

Try this. Make a new steerpoint between 1 and 2. Change the action at the new steerpoint to “refuel” and set “patrol time” to like 10min . Depends on how long it takes for yu to refuel. When you punch in the 10 minutes it changes your take off time too.
It’s been a long time since I’ve done this, but worth a try I think.

[jinro88]

I was thinking about creating that a new steerpoint like that but didn’t know it would adjust the T/O time. I figured it would screw up the entire flight plan. I’ll give it a go tomorrow.

[Junker]

Your T/O time is limited unless you task well in advance. I am not sure if just adding a steerpoint for refueling will adjust all other package flights TOT accordingly. With carefull planning you can task the Package from scratch to ensure the time alotted for refueling.

[sub101]

Try taking extra fuel, or refuel on the way home. Or refuel and burn all tha( fuel you just got on trying to catch up.

[Jambo]

1st. unlock all stps except stp 1. add a steerpoint where you plan on tanking. change action of stp to refuel and set patrol time to 10 or 15 mins or whatever you want. and thats it. it will adjust all stps except take off. now if you wanted to keep TOT (time on target) then you would unlock all stps except tartget stp and do the same. I would recommend creating the stp after your push stp (which normally is 2). The key for you not to screw up your stp times is to unlock all but the one you want to keep at the same time.

[jinro88]

Try taking extra fuel, or refuel on the way home. Or refuel and burn all tha( fuel you just got on trying to catch up.

Not helpful when you’re flying out of Haeju. I flew out to Hamhung and spent so much gas stiff-arming enemy fighters and waiting for my target (SA-2) to go active I made it back with about 2500lbs of fuel left. 63nm out from home plate, I called vector to tanker and the nearest tanker was 108nm away! Most of the tankers in Tiger Spirit hover around Haeju and the DMZ, making them useless for anything other than topping off.

[Dee-Jay]

It is VERY simple.

Keep Push and TOT locked (those are mandatory if you are working in Package or COMAO… unless, change the entire Package TOT) and unlock Take Off time.

Create a new WPT2 and set it as “Refuel” point. Set around 5 to 15 min “time on station” depending on how many ship in your flight, and your rejoin/refuel skills.

You may also save time by taking earlier than scheduled by flight pan. (If you can startup and be airborne in less than 20min)

… That’s all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kul8SC8L0pI

[jinro88]

Aha, so it will automatically adjust T/O time.

Speaking of the skill level, if you set pilot skill level under the Teams section to ace, then create a package with a skill level of rookie, which will it be? Ace or rookie?

[Dee-Jay]

@jinro88:

if you set pilot skill level under the Teams section to ace, then create a package with a skill level of rookie, which will it be? Ace or rookie?

Don’t know?

[Guest]

@jinro88:

Speaking of the skill level, if you set pilot skill level under the Teams section to ace, then create a package with a skill level of rookie, which will it be? Ace or rookie?

I have the same question. Don’t think the skill selection @ add package window does anything but I always set it to ace just to be safe…

[jinro88]

Ace? I set everything to cadet or less to be safe :lol: I get my butt served on a silver platter if it’s veteran or above.

[Guest]

@jinro88:

I set everything to cadet or less to be safe :lol:

Quit being a WIMP, put it on Rookie Challenge level, everything’s even up there!!!

You’ll be fine.

RAM22

[jinro88]

Well, I created that steerpoint and set to refuel, 20 minute patrol time. Tanker refused to refuel me. I got right behind him, requested fuel multiple times and all he would say is “unable” :???:

[Guest]

@jinro88:

Ace? I set everything to cadet or less to be safe :lol: I get my butt served on a silver platter if it’s veteran or above.

I meant the settings in add package window. But plz man get unsuck, quick!

[Dee-Jay]

@jinro88:

Well, I created that steerpoint and set to refuel, 20 minute patrol time. Tanker refused to refuel me. I got right behind him, requested fuel multiple times and all he would say is “unable” :???:

Was your AWACS “on Station”?

Send me the TE… I will have a look.

[jinro88]

It’s a campaign….so not sure about sending you the file. AWACs was on station. Called for vectors to tanker and picture multiple times. Tanker was also on station, but refused to give me fuel.

STPT 9 was already a refueling STPT; is it possible that by creating a 2nd refueling STPT at STPT 2 it mucked things up?