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    • reiser
      reiser last edited by

      Hey guys,

      While working on Peregrine, I’ve got a very basic Iraq theater setup. It’s not tiled but the airbases, objectives, are done. I’m reaching out to see if anyone would be interested in working on it with me. Operation Desert Storm, Operation Iraqi Freedom, and some operation against ISIS (because screw them).

      I’m using the Korea object database and using Polak’s Israel tiles as placeholders at the moment. But I have TDF’s of all the features and csv’s of all the objectives. I’m using this theater as the test bed for Peregrine so I’m looking for some tile masters who would want to help.

      I realize with the tools we have, making a theater is super time consuming. I’m hoping to find those pain points (found a few already) and build solutions into Peregrine for the future. However, you don’t know what you don’t know, so any advice on tiling, customizing, would be appreciated.

      Or I can just dump the full workspace in dropbox or something.

      The area covered is at N33,E44 64 size theater. Covering Northern Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Eastern Jordan, Eastern Syria, Southern Turkey, and Western Iran. E00 files available as well as the HDR/BIN of GMTED the terrain was based on. High res VFR chart. I still have to do the stations+ils.dat file and customize the teams/flags and make sure the airbases are lined up right. Oh, and tile everything. Anyone up for the challenge?

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      • Lukas
        Lukas last edited by

        could you post whole map screenshot please?

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        • reiser
          reiser @Lukas last edited by

          @Lukas:

          could you post whole map screenshot please?

          http://i.imgur.com/6YG3dJ6.jpg

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          • haukka81
            haukka81 last edited by

            Now molni and others, hurry up and help this man out. My second favorite war area may see daylight 🙂

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            • haukka81
              haukka81 last edited by

              And for campaings , maybe first Persian gulf war (1991?) would be nice.

              Iraq air forces just bit better than RL so red could fight back some.

              Just like old Janes F-15 iraq campaing, balance was perfect.

              Just my 0,002 cents (and yes, Janes F-15 has special place in my heart 😄 )

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              • Lukas
                Lukas @haukka81 last edited by

                I see u want it 64 seg. But we need more north areas.
                We would be able to simulate Iraq vs Turkey battles.
                Iraqi F-16s and L-159s together with Russian SU-35s, 34s and 25s against Turkish F-16s…

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                • reiser
                  reiser @Lukas last edited by

                  @Lukas:

                  I see u want it 64 seg. But we need more north areas.
                  We would be able to simulate Iraq vs Turkey battles.
                  Iraqi F-16s and L-159s together with Russian SU-35s, 34s and 25s against Turkish F-16s…

                  The work involved in tiling a 128 theater is more than I’m willing to commit to.

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                  • haukka81
                    haukka81 @reiser last edited by

                    @reiser:

                    The work involved in tiling a 128 theater is more than I’m willing to commit to.

                    64 is good, for working campaing 🙂

                    Keep up good work , i really like to get back to bagdad and scud hunt 🙂

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                    • Dee-Jay
                      Dee-Jay @haukka81 last edited by

                      Campaign, mission tasking and flights won’t work properly on a 128 seg theater (if using the entire map). Maybe one day… but not yet.

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                      • Tunechi
                        Tunechi last edited by

                        @reiser:

                        Hey guys,
                        and some operation against ISIS (because screw them).

                        The name is Operation Inherent Resolve for the US. 🙂

                        Other than that I cannot help you having no knowledge in theater making and less than basic knowledge in campaign making/editing…
                        I told myself I might try theater/campaign making when Peregrine is released though, if a manual comes with it.

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                        • Jackal
                          Jackal @Tunechi last edited by

                          @Tunechi:

                          Other than that I cannot help you having no knowledge in theater making and less than basic knowledge in campaign making/editing…
                          I told myself I might try theater/campaign making when Peregrine is released though, if a manual comes with it.

                          +1, and gladly too, for those same reasons Tunechi pointed out.

                          Best regards, and keep on with that interesting theather, reiser.

                          "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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                          • Polak
                            Polak @Jackal last edited by

                            This theater is significantly overlapping with Malc’s Kuwait Theater.
                            https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?21037-Kuwait-Theater-tester-version-1-now-available
                            Most of mine materials from Kuwait (when ready) can be used in your Iraqi theater. However, by the time all is done I hope we can also accomplished some more progress with implementation of new terrain features through Peregrine, or some other apps and tools. Also, all this really is calling maybe for making 128 seg theaters a reality in Falcon BMS. I would never expect to find myself saying this, but “Bigger is better!”.

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                            • reiser
                              reiser @Polak last edited by

                              @Polak:

                              This theater is significantly overlapping with Malc’s Kuwait Theater.
                              https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?21037-Kuwait-Theater-tester-version-1-now-available
                              Most of mine materials from Kuwait (when ready) can be used in your Iraqi theater. However, by the time all is done I hope we can also accomplished some more progress with implementation of new terrain features through Peregrine, or some other apps and tools. Also, all this really is calling maybe for making 128 seg theaters a reality in Falcon BMS. I would never expect to find myself saying this, but “Bigger is better!”.

                              One step at a time. Yes, they overlap, probably 90% I’d say. But it’s also the test bed for Peregrine’s terrain tooling. I don’t care who makes it, I want the bomb the crap out of ISIS, lol. But yeah, I think we may need to pool resources.

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                              • Airbuster
                                Airbuster @reiser last edited by

                                Hello there Reiser,

                                instead of doing 2 almost similar theaters, you can do a new one focused more on Syria. That’s the heartland of isis, and with the recent involvement of the Russian forces there can be some really interesting scenarios recreated with multiple forces fighting each other.

                                Anyways this is just a suggestion, you should do what you really keeps you passioned. Great work on your terrain tool, keep it up!

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                                • haukka81
                                  haukka81 @Airbuster last edited by

                                  Just make iraq, kuwait as you are planed. We would finally get good persian gulf map for desert storm campaing 🙂

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                                  • Ripper
                                    Ripper @reiser last edited by

                                    @reiser:

                                    One step at a time. Yes, they overlap, probably 90% I’d say. But it’s also the test bed for Peregrine’s terrain tooling. I don’t care who makes it, I want the bomb the crap out of ISIS, lol. But yeah, I think we may need to pool resources.

                                    Don’t forget you can bomb a good chunk of Syria from the Israel theater. Someone even made an ISIS campaign.

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                                    • Tunechi
                                      Tunechi @Airbuster last edited by

                                      @Airbuster:

                                      Hello there Reiser,

                                      instead of doing 2 almost similar theaters, you can do a new one focused more on Syria. That’s the heartland of isis, and with the recent involvement of the Russian forces there can be some really interesting scenarios recreated with multiple forces fighting each other.

                                      Anyways this is just a suggestion, you should do what you really keeps you passioned. Great work on your terrain tool, keep it up!

                                      Yea but NATO countries’ squadrons aren’t stationed in Syria, some are on aircraft carriers, some are in Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait etc… so to make a realistic campaign we would need those countries+the sea.
                                      And Operation Desert Storm is really a Classic.

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                                      • viper17
                                        viper17 @Tunechi last edited by

                                        Is there any updates or release date of this theatre

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                                        • Polak
                                          Polak @viper17 last edited by

                                          Is there any updates or release date of this theatre

                                          Of course there is: 2-3 weeks. 🙂

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                                          • Ripper
                                            Ripper @Polak last edited by

                                            On the 25th anniversary of Desert Storm I ask how is it coming Reiser? 🙂

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