Maverick question
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Ok, I cant figure out how to consistently get it so that my Air to Ground radar and my Maverick camera are “synced” together. I like to have my AG radar on my left MFD and my maverick wpn view on my right mfd. I want to use the radar on the left to find targets and have the maverick camera move along with it. It happens sometimes but after i fire my first missile or seemingly randomly they just go out of sync. How do I make it so that it stays like this?
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Did you perform the procedure to both stations? If not, it will only work on the one you did it for.
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hmmm what procedure are you referring to? The only thing I do is turn the mavs on and wait for them to time out, then turn my laser to combat mode via the ICP
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Did you perform the procedure to both stations? If not, it will only work on the one you did it for.
He’s slaving to the FCR …. what ‘procedure’?
…. then turn my laser to combat mode via the ICP
This has nothing to do with Mavericks. Zero.
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He’s slaving to the FCR …. what ‘procedure’?
This has nothing to do with Mavericks. Zero.
weird. I didnt think it did either but when I didnt do it my mavericks would NEVER hit their target. As soon as I made sure to do that they hit their marks. Are you sure?
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weird. I didnt think it did either but when I didnt do it my mavericks would NEVER hit their target. As soon as I made sure to do that they hit their marks. Are you sure?
About the laser? Yes, 100% sure.
Unless there’s a bug, but that seems unlikely.
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About the laser? Yes, 100% sure.
Unless there’s a bug, but that seems unlikely.
Well il confirm again. Chances are im wrong.
So regarding the slaving to the FCR, any idea how to do that?
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I seem to have the same problem as above. The maverick only slaves to the FCR when it hasn’t been slew’d. The minute I slew the Mav in weapons mode I cannot get it slave again to the FCR . The only way I get it slaved again is by powering down the Mav then power it up again. I tried TMSUP/DOWN back to FCR and nothing. Any ideas ?
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Cursor Zero?
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Tried Cursor Zero too, it does not work. With SOI WPN or FCR all it seems to do is center the FCR.
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I seem to have the same problem as above. The maverick only slaves to the FCR when it hasn’t been slew’d. The minute I slew the Mav in weapons mode I cannot get it slave again to the FCR . The only way I get it slaved again is by powering down the Mav then power it up again. I tried TMSUP/DOWN back to FCR and nothing. Any ideas ?
Hi,
You need to RTFM the Maverick section of the BMS 3-4. Once a Mav is slewed, it becomes ground stabilized and works on its own, in order to “Reset” it you can change Master mode to DGFT/MRM-Override and cancel.
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That did it, Its working now. Thanks
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So regarding the slaving to the FCR, any idea how to do that?
… to the FCR ~ 5:10
Cheers,
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Hi,
You need to RTFM the Maverick section of the BMS 3-4. Once a Mav is slewed, it becomes ground stabilized and works on its own, in order to “Reset” it you can change Master mode to DGFT/MRM-Override and cancel.
Is there a discussion thread on this? Im fairly certain this is incorrect behavior.
In fact now that I think about it there was another thread where this was discussed…. guess I will have to go hunting for it.
EDIT: So there was a discussion on it… which ended with a not atypical response of ‘BMS will stay the way it is’.
Perhaps you have it right there I-Hawk. I dont happen to have an F-16 on my person to test it out on, though.
I spotted this which details when the Mav gets returned to the slaved condition, and that would seem to support what you are saying about the TMS down causing it to break track but otherwise stay where it is.
2.8.12.1.11.8 In non-TGP operations, the SOI moves to the WPN page (if displayed) upon the target designation. If the SOI is on the FCR page with either FTT or GMTT selected, then the SOI moves to the WPN page upon the target designation after the radar has acquired track. If the SOI changes from WPN to another sensor while the selected Maverick is in slew mode, then the Maverick is commanded into SLAVE (BORE) mode.
2.8.12.1 AGM-65 SMS/WPN Page. If an AGM-65 weapon is selected, peculiar EO options are available. The following EO submodes are accessible:
PRE – Preplanned delivery mode, AGM-65 slaved to SPI, AGM-65 LOS in SLAVE.
VIS – Visual delivery mode, AGM-65 slaved to TD box, AGM-65 LOS in SLAVE.
BORE – Preplanned delivery mode, AGM-65 slaved to its bore LOS, AGM-65 LOS in BORE.So, it would be TMS down to break the track, then either DMS down or up depending on the mode (VIS or PRE). That seems like it would be quite intuitive in operation, actually.
So a TMS up with the SOI on the WPN page would command a track. A TMS down would command a return to slew mode. A DMS up (assuming VIS mode here) would command SOI to the HUD, and the Maverick would be commanded back to the SLAVE mode (which in VIS would point it back to the TD box LOS). Very intuitive.
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I’m fairly certain that it is correct behavior, EVEN if the real manuals may suggest otherwise…
And yes, we had a discussion about it sometime ago
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correct behavior for which F-16 though? F-16I? PXIII? PV? CCIP?
or is the assertion that it is that behavior for all 4 and a half thousand jets?
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correct behavior for which F-16 though? F-16I? PXIII? PV? CCIP?
or is the assertion that it is that behavior for all 4 and a half thousand jets?
Well… I sure hope that you:
1. Realize that it would be EXTREMELY odd for me to just pop such behavior out of my mind.2. Understand that not ANYTHING you read in the real 3-4 is 100% accurate and with some of the subjects you will not even come close to find an answer of how a system behaves in situation x (See e.g SPI behavior in 4.33 and tell me if you can understand the exact details from reading the 3-4 only…)
3. Understand that while we try to simulate some “generic” F-16 tape, it’s really impossible, so the BMS F-16 probably includes bits and pieces from many tapes/Blocks.
4. Understand that the real jet probably also suffers some design shorts and not everything is so great and comfortable, that as far as your “intuitive” comment goes… I can give you a dozen more examples where I think that the real jet is acting dumb and I would have done it otherwise bla bla bla.
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1 and 3, certainly - 3 irks me, but what can -I- do? Nothing.
I would be very curious about number 4, if you are willing to share. Number 2, the SPI stuff actually seems reasonably sensible in its explanation - although perhaps as you say, I am only thinking I understand it, and that the manual is not accurate to any real jet. Number 1, I would never accuse you of making stuff up or pulling it out of thin air. I can appreciate how my curiousity about the source is quite likely to not be satiated, but I am sure you can appreciate how that does not itself make the curiosity any less! -
… to the FCR ~ 5:10
Cheers,http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f82/lazystone/Smileys/hat_3.gif
LSI watched this video but i dont think boresighting has anything to do with my issue. As long as i can get the FCR and mav seeker to sync up, I cant think of a good reason to even bother boresighting TBH
So is that dgft mode + cancel dgft “fix” an actual thing? Like is that the “proper way” to regain slave function?
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There is some debate over that… that was the topic of the last few posts.
It is definitely ‘a’ way to do it… it would definitely work, whether the manuals description above is correct or whether it only works as I-Hawk says.
