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    New to BMS 4.33 and need guide

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      simo1000rr last edited by

      Hi all , as the title says im new to BMS falcon . I’ve been playing DCS for almost 2 yrs (flying mostly the F15 and some time the SU 27 and now im enjoying the new M-2000 ) For all this time when I was playing the F15 it always felt under bar and very basics and not a simulation level then I came across BMS falcon when 4.33 was released and it was by the chance when I read the MUDspike review on it and I was shocked honestly by the deep level of information an effort that was put into it . im not writing to debate of which is better DCS or BMS I actually love both for each one gives you something that the other don’t have I actually tend to love both . Now my question since im new to BMS 4.33 and I would love to get to know everything about the F16 , im not looking to be an ace pilot , no I just enjoy learning the sim and studying it . So how do I start im really lost in all the tutorials and Manuals and don’t know the first lead . the tutorial is not giving me the information im looking for it only tells you , You want (X) to work click on 1 then 2 and move 3 and here you go I actually want more explanations , I know that the manuals have all the information so I have printed out all the manuals that comes in the Documentation folder of 4.33 I just don’t know which one to read first I don’t want to start reading something to find out that I should have started with something different so here is a list of what I printed and I hope some one tells me which one to start with and what steps to take im really lost :
      Navigation charts tutorial
      BMS 4.33 dash 1
      BMS avionics and weapon delivery system manual .
      All Check lists of the F16
      All the PDF in the check list folder
      Training missions manual ( a set of 25 missions)
      All the other pdf that comes with Israel theater of war

      PS : pardon me if I typed something wrong or used the wrong expression ,English is not my native language

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        Red Dog last edited by

        Start with the Dash 1, it will explain most of what you need to fly the jet
        Then combine it with training manual, Pdf and TRN.

        BMS manual is only about sim specific stuff, UI, IVC, MP etc etc
        Keep the dash-34 for later unless you’re looking for specific weapon or tactic stuff you might need

        But basically
        learn to FLY the jet
        then learn to FIGHT the jet only when you know how the system operates

        Welcome and enjoy BMS

        Red Dog
        Reality if for ppl who can't handle simulation

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          simo1000rr @Red Dog last edited by

          @Red:

          Start with the Dash 1, it will explain most of what you need to fly the jet
          Then combine it with training manual, Pdf and TRN.

          BMS manual is only about sim specific stuff, UI, IVC, MP etc etc
          Keep the dash-34 for later unless you’re looking for specific weapon or tactic stuff you might need

          But basically
          learn to FLY the jet
          then learn to FIGHT the jet only when you know how the system operates

          Welcome and enjoy BMS

          Thank you for your answer and will follow your recommendation . i mainly interested into learning the navigation and flying the jet . of course at some point when i learn how to fly i would like to know how the weaponry system work , I dont want to be an ACE pilot i just have a passion to learn the different capability of the Jet i dont really care if im not good with tactics as long as i know how things work .
          another thing what is the TRN you mentioned above . im sorry im jsut starting i dont memories some of the abbreviations used .

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            Mower @simo1000rr last edited by

            Welcome to BMS, my brother, from another DCS flier, mainly the Hawg C but also the FC jets.

            You are correct that BMS is uber hardcore andso will require time and commitment to learn.

            So, get on the stick.

            GOTS…
            FalconAF to FBMS Conversion Guide

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              atsmith6 @Mower last edited by

              If you’re trying to learn a study-level simulator like the F-16, or A-10C, then I strongly recommend joining a virtual fighter wing. Most good ones are perfectly happy to take on new guys who have only a basic understanding of the aircraft. As long as they have a reputation for friendliness any one will do really.

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                ShepT @atsmith6 last edited by

                I am still learning but I found the best way for me was to take the training missions and work through them slowly. They are very complete and will get you where you need to be. Just study the topics that come up as they come up in the training sorties/missions…using the training missions and referencing all others resources as needed. The training missions and the material that support them are very well done. My hat off to all who worked on these, really well done and very effective at the desired purpose. All that is required for new pilots to learn is putting in the work.

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                  Red Dog @ShepT last edited by

                  Thank you ShepT 🙂

                  Red Dog
                  Reality if for ppl who can't handle simulation

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                    fearless1 @atsmith6 last edited by

                    The learning process is recursive…read, fly, learn, read, fly, learn, etc. even after you’ve mastered it all. Keep a copy of the pdfs in your portable device for reading throughout the day. If your commitment level starts high and stays there, you’ll eventually read all the indigenous manuals along with many docs outside of the sim too. The docs are VERY thorough and should be able to answer say 99.99% of any technical questions you may have. For video demonstrations of what you read in the manuals, go to YouTube and search for “Falcon BMS” for many very detailed and informative tutorials. You can of course browse and ask questions here at BMS forum too (and just ignore recommendations from some to RTFM :D). The learning process is also compartmentalized into individually identifiable chunks to make things easier (e.g., flight, navigation, comms, avionics, weapons, DTC, etc.). There is also a surprisingly large amount of stuff to figure out and learn in the 2D UI and 3rd party apps too (e.g., keyfile editing, DTC, Falcas’ products, etc), perhaps more so than learning the plane’s avionics.

                    For your sorties in the 3D world while you are still in a learning/tinkering mood, recommend you turn on all the settings on the right side of the Simulation page (invulnerable, unlimited fuel/chaff/flares, etc.). These easy level settings are just an expediency against having to constantly restart flights over and over again just because you bent a gear on landing, took a missile hit, mid air collisions, etc. You’ll start turning these “cheats” off as you get better at flying and fighting. Keep the settings on the left side of the Simulation page full real though (accurate, 3-axis, realistic AR). As for choosing a padlock view setting, realistic setting simply means having to look at the section of sky or ground first to view what may be there. Enhanced padlocking automatically selects for you the appropriate object nearby to view depending on what the sim thinks you are doing at the moment. Choose padlocking mode at your own discretion although enhanced mode would make the most sense if you aren’t using something like TrackIR as your method of eyeballing the 3D world. You can also freeze the sim mid flight to tinker with avionics that aren’t frozen, read manuals/nav charts/check lists, view objects and eye candy, etc.

                    For learning the set pieces, fly the TE training missions, including the 4.32 ones you can convert and import into 4.33. To “learn the piccolo” and become fast and automatic at handling your HOTAS and offensive/defensive/nav avionics, turn god mode on (aforementioned Simulation page settings) then bomb and shoot the crap out of everything and anything during single long sorties in Instant Action.

                    Oh…and just have fun…

                    f1

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                      skyhawk @fearless1 last edited by

                      I know what you mean I have been reading more than flying I started out with falcon 4.0 to bms 4.32 then lost interest for two or three years Now I am into 4.33 and what a change almost like going to flight school I found out you can’t jump into the pit and expect to complete a mission successfully a whole new ball game.

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