IADS
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Hello once again BMS team, I have been wondering since the release of 4.33 is there an active IADS in 4.33 and if so, is it simulated in 3D world and active that one may want to focus on dismantling it to keep GCI from sending fighters for an intercept ???
If active maybe tell me where I can read up on it. Also what radars serve as EW/GCI radars in Falcon BMS 4.33
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I’m just curious if EW/GCI is yet another aspect of combat within BMS one can immerse himself in.
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There is an IADS, and dismantling their radar coverage will reap benefits. God knows where you can read about it. 4.32 came with a heap of legacy manuals which might have detailed it. You could try the RP5 manual if you can find it (google Realism Patch 5).
EW/GCI is something you can do in multiplayer, by acting as GCI/AWACS from the 2D map. Its something you can attack on the enemy side, too, but there are usually LOTS of radars, so its a very time consuming task.
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OK what about the 3D aspect is there benefit to dismantling the IADS from a 3D perspective ?? Plus what are the benefits to doing this ??
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Well, for one thing, removing radars will make it rather hard for SAMs to target you… and if your position is not known, that prevents fighters from being vectored to you…
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What I mean I guess is how is bustin it up effective against AI ?? Do they communicate within the network ?? Plus what about killing radar stations and radars at airbases I have given this a look in RP5 manual but not to specific as to how the AI re-acts to threats within the IADS for instance if a SAM site was within a EW/GCI radarwould it be able to engage the threat without giving away its own position by turning on their radar ??
What about EW/GCI with AI how would they use the IADS that they have aside from AWACS ??
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Well you cant do that RW, either… you need to acquire the target with your target radar. The closest you can do IRL is have a similar radar feed targeting info to a nearby site.
If you dont kill all radar sites that cover the area you fly through, you will get detected and you may be intercepted.
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So does that mean that the IADS in Falcon is somewhat screwey even with updates and behaviors of it ??
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Define ‘somewhat screwey’. Ive never seen a behavior with the IADS in BMS that made me question it or think it ‘buggy’.
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I asked the wrong question what I should’ve said was since there is so much dedicated to taking down an IADS is it worth making an attempt to do so ?? Have you ever done this yourself ??
Because if it is time consuming should one make an attempt to do such a thing in BMS ??
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In places. I find that dismantling the whole thing is time consuming - but you can see immediate benefits by working on weak spots. In korea for instance, you can enable deep strike missions pretty much anywhete important in the north, by focusing on SAMs and radars in the central south. Take out their radar coverage in the central peninsula and you can create a radar free corridor that will let you fly COMAOs up to a target area without providing advance warning.
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OK so busting up the IADS in certain areas will not warrant such a quick response from the enemy from further distances unless you are much closer and by then it would be to late for them ?? Kinda like the jammer effect you would have to be closer and lower to be spotted ??
Instead of being further out and giving them a chance to organize an intercept against you using air power and Sam’s ??
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Well, if they dont know you are there, it wont warrant a response at all.
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Sorry but, there is no IADS in Falcon4. However, yes, EWR on airbase are triggering the QRA into INTERCET mission when below a given distance if threat is detected.
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Ok so radar sites at airports are relevant especially one’s with aircraft stationed there that are capable of intercept…interesting that there isn’t IADS in Falcon BMS I noticed they did add Search Radars to SAM sites but those it would seem are just for immersion because taking out the respective search radar on a SAM would not yield it from firing or suppress it either. Too bad that the SAM part of BMS isn’t up to PAR yet, hopefully in future updates this would be so.
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EWR of SAM site are there of early detection (longer range than the FCR itself), FCR is made for fire support, but most (all) system can works without the EWR operating. But not without at least one FCR (depending on SAM type -> SA11/17 (IIRC) where each launchers has its own FCR).
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SAM’s EWR (radar coverage) are not interconnected between each sites (no specific tactics like the one described in original manual … maybe it was a project? … but we keep it in minds and it could be a future evolution to make it actually and properly work one day). One can say that a certain level of IADS is implemented if we consider the QRA feature. Anything else is rather a feeling that ppl has because of some “bugs”.
At least, we can say that it do not fully work in the code as described in RP5 & original manual.
Fist step is to equip all SAM batteries with their dedicated EWR. We’ve started this work on the 4.33 but it is WIP (SA-10 is no yet equipped for example) … to be continued … Keep the faith …
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EWR of SAM site are there of early detection (longer range than the FCR itself), FCR is made for fire support, but most (all) system can works without the EWR operating. But not without at least one FCR (depending on SAM type -> SA11/17 (IIRC) where each launchers has its own FCR).
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SAM’s EWR (radar coverage) are not interconnected between each sites (no specific tactics like the one described in original manual … maybe it was a project? … but we keep it in minds and it could be a future evolution to make it actually and properly work one day). One can say that a certain level of IADS is implemented if we consider the QRA feature. Anything else is rather a feeling that ppl has because of some “bugs”.
At least, we can say that it do not fully work in the code as described in RP5 & original manual.
Fist step is to equip all SAM batteries with their dedicated EWR. We’ve started this work on the 4.33 but it is WIP (SA-10 is no yet equipped for example) … to be continued … Keep the faith …
For this goal lots of things have to be done.
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So since it’s not modeled like the RP5 patch then SAM’s are the only thing that are worth going for as far as Radars go ??? Could one possibly download the RP5 patch and apply it to BMS or is RP5 soley for Falcon 4.0 only ??
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RP5 patch is only for Falcon4.0, but it wouldn’t change anything, there is no more IADS in F4RP5 than in F4BMS … and for info, RP5’s legacy is already included in BMS.
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Ah ok thank you for the insight
