Free up grade to win 10 only few days left, should i ?
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I have W10 on my laptop. Do not like it. Bloated software, privacy concerns and no control of updates. Keeping W7 on my sim rig as long as possible.
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DO it no problems with BMS on win 10. Just think in a couple of years win 10 issues will be sorted. Admittedly there are a few problems with this release. But no more support for win 7
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I have W10 on my laptop. Do not like it. Bloated software, privacy concerns and no control of updates. Keeping W7 on my sim rig as long as possible.
I didn’t keep a list of sites I found answers on those, but all those ‘features’ can be removed. I’ll see if I can resurrect the list, but replacing the start button with the classic W7 start button is easy, the ‘bloatware’ apps can be removed with a simple text entry in powershell, and a simple registry edit will get your control back of windows update scheduling. The only thing I couldn’t permanently break was cortana, but at least it’s managable now and doesn’t call home on every powerup.
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That list would be helpful, thanks MaddogK. Can you tell me how to back out of the Microsoft account they hooked me into?
I really don’t like the spying and forced updates either. Simple maybe, but I do not know how to rid myself of these scourges/? Look forward to learning how.
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That list would be helpful, thanks MaddogK. Can you tell me how to back out of the Microsoft account they hooked me into?
I really don’t like the spying and forced updates either. Simple maybe, but I do not know how to rid myself of these scourges/? Look forward to learning how.
IIRC the MSLive account has to be terminated when you log into their server via a browser, tho I’de be wary of doing that if your running office later than 07 since the current office is a subscription service.
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Thanks, I think I am going back to W7. Too many things I do not like.
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For sure the upgrade is trouble maker for laptops.
In my work on all desktop pc went smooth but on laptops 100% failure.
In one made a clean install and then it went smooth.
In my laptop just the previous week I found and removed a killer process checking for Windows 10 compatibility… having 100% disk usage…
This was just one of the many troubles i faced.
I must do a clean install for sure.
In general doesn’t give me a feeling of assurance as Win7 gives me. And many things, small stupid, but everyday usage is getting to my nerves.
Maybe after sp1 or sp2 that all those will be fixed.Sent from TapaTalk
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This is one thing that’s splitting some in the I.T. world. MaddogK is partially right. You can disable most of the annoying things by opting out and with reg edits. Even if you do that, you won’t be able to disable a couple of things. It’s those “things” that are bothering us. For instance, taking full control over what information is being sent over the wire.(Privacy and potential sercurity risk) Another is controlling what is installed. (MS sponsored apps and advertising)
So far, the only way to bypass this is to have a Enterprise subscription license or Education. That’s about $84 per year per instance. As for normal end-users, Home and to some extent Pro, you’re out of luck. The lastest major update, 1607, dubbed “Anniversary Edition” will take away more configuration options such as being about to edit group policies that block some anoyances. That was the last bastion for Pro users.
All in all, I would hold on to windows 7 or 8.1 if I were you, and keep them offline after they are phased out. If you need more info, I’d be glad to share.
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All in all, I would hold on to windows 7 or 8.1 if I were you, and keep them offline after they are phased out.
Perhaps the best advise I’ve read today…
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But no more support for win 7
Stop spreading disinformation please. win7 will “enjoy” security fixes until at LEAST 2020. win10 is such a privacy / bloat nightmare I really really do hope we’ll have an alternative to run BMS on by then.
All the best, Uwe
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Stop spreading disinformation please. win7 will “enjoy” security fixes until at LEAST 2020. win10 is such a privacy / bloat nightmare I really really do hope we’ll have an alternative to run BMS on by then.
All the best, Uwe
Indeed Win 7 till 2020 and Win 8 till like 2023 for bug/security fixes.
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Went back to W7. Faster and snappier than W10 on my laptop. Had some registry issues that I had to fix due to the roll back, its not a clean process. I will do a clean install of Windows 7 later.
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Still undecided?
First, Darkman, thanks for this. Guys, I don’t want or need Win 10 without BMS, and considering everything BMS related I try to do is an “adventure”…I certainly don’t want it.
I am concerned about the day, fortunately several years away, when I’ll have to do Win 10. I’ve considered partitioning my hard drive, and installing W10 on it. -
If it’s married to the motherboard then the free version will become invalid as soon as you swap the mb out. Sounds like a waste of time to me if that is true. I remember reading that if you are upgrading from retail the the free Win10 retains those same rights so why they marry it to the mb?
I did a windows 10 upgrade on an Hp computer , the motherboard went bad shortly after. So i then upgraded the mobo, cpu, and ram. Then did a fresh windows 10 install, replaced just the partion and everything worked like before. I had to use the windows 7 product key to validate it but it all worked. I also have windows 10 on my rig and no issues with BMS.
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I’m late - free upgrade ended on 29/7 - but I really hope you didn’t miss the chance to take advantage of it.
I switched to 10 several months ago and sincerely would not ever look back and also do not understand the widespread distrust against it.
Personally, I consider 10 the best OS ever produced by Microsoft: it’s rock solid, very fast (it for sure is faster than 7 by an order of magnitude), simple to use and well organized, constantly and automatically upgraded in order to keep it smooth and secure, absolutely NO compatibility problems with BMS and the whole bunch of software I use everyday.
What else could you - “man that walks down the street” - ask to an OS?
You only have to ensure to do a clean install, upgrading from previous versions is known to create every sort of trouble, but all the PCs I have upgraded from scratch work absolutely flawlessly.
As for privacy concerns, it’s enough to use the tools the OS itself provides you with to control it or follow one of the dozens guides you’ll find on the Internet to be reasonably safe if you - as the majority of people - don’t need to hide who knows what (in this case stop using Google, Gmail and all other cloud services too, thanks! ).
On servers I no doubt prefer Linux and all the above is just my humble opinion, but I think it’s a fact that with 10 MS offered an excellent client product, ideal for most people daily use. -
I’m late - free upgrade ended on 29/7 - but I really hope you didn’t miss the chance to take advantage of it.
I switched to 10 several months ago and sincerely would not ever look back and also do not understand the widespread distrust against it.
Personally, I consider 10 the best OS ever produced by Microsoft: it’s rock solid, very fast (it for sure is faster than 7 by an order of magnitude), simple to use and well organized, constantly and automatically upgraded in order to keep it smooth and secure, absolutely NO compatibility problems with BMS and the whole bunch of software I use everyday.
What else could you - “man that walks down the street” - ask to an OS?
You only have to ensure to do a clean install, upgrading from previous versions is known to create every sort of trouble, but all the PCs I have upgraded from scratch work absolutely flawlessly.
As for privacy concerns, it’s enough to use the tools the OS itself provides you with to control it or follow one of the dozens guides you’ll find on the Internet to be reasonably safe if you - as the majority of people - don’t need to hide who knows what (in this case stop using Google, Gmail and all other cloud services too, thanks! ).
On servers I no doubt prefer Linux and all the above is just my humble opinion, but I think it’s a fact that with 10 MS offered an excellent client product, ideal for most people daily use.I took it not, and I will never use another OS from MS instead of that Win-7 that I use yet, because of gaming. Anything else is made under a GNU/Linux.
The best ever? What does it means exactly?! It handles modern architecture? Wow?!
Win-7 is also rock solid, so what. What exactly the thing what an OS makes it to the best?!Very fast? What is very fast?
You know that the windows itself (not the OS) is another drawing than the windows of Win-7, or Vista?
What else is faster?Oh yes, the updates and upgrades! I forgot <just kidding!=“”>We all had lived with this “free” upgrafe from Win-x to Win-10!
IMHO is all further using of a MS OS a surrender of independence, the way, the MS way, of *your pc to *their terminal user.You will get nothing for nothing. But who is willing to have transparency, there are several other ways, e.g. a GNU/Linux…
I changed late, now, ~ 3 years. And in that case, I will never return (to MS)! And I’m really a little sad that I hadn’t changed in 2k when I already had the chance…2c
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Not telling anyone to go and use win10, but if you want to, the upgrade is still possible, from the MS website:
For the general public, the free upgrade offer for Windows 10 ends on July 29. However, if you use assistive technologies, you can still get the free upgrade offer even after the general public deadline expires as Microsoft continues our efforts to improve the Windows 10 experience for people who use these technologies.
So with a little lie……[emoji6]
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Read the fine print, my brothers, W10 is evil.
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Read the fine print, my brothers, W10 is evil.
I gave it a spin for a while (on the professional edition ,granted ), yesterday i got the “anniversary update” according to reviews cortana can no longer be disabled ( and it’s the only search option in the start menu ). That did it for me, i put Linux as first boot choice until i get to put back win7, bare-bones just for gaming and i guess I can address my windows development needs by using VMs
I get that iPads and Chrome devices do that by design, but this is a PC and it has all the hardware it needs to function without their “cloud” and “telemetry”,again it’s a PC not a f*cking mars rover
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I’m on 14393 Redstone (Anniversary build) and Cortana can still be disabled. The search can also be completely removed with some scripting.
Windows 7 is also pushing updates which do telemetry lately. So don’t think you’re “safe” there.
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64561-Remove-Telemetry-and-Windows-10-Related-Updates-from-Windows-7I personally turn off as much of it as I can, and apart from that I don’t really care all that much as long as it doesn’t affect my performance.
Whether you run W7 or W10 … who cares in the end … whatever floats your boat.