Free up grade to win 10 only few days left, should i ?
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@Cloud:
You go GIRL!! LOL
C9
Back to the shadows with you!
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@Mud:
I’m on 14393 Redstone (Anniversary build) and Cortana can still be disabled. The search can also be completely removed with some scripting.
Windows 7 is also pushing updates which do telemetry lately. So don’t think you’re “safe” there.
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64561-Remove-Telemetry-and-Windows-10-Related-Updates-from-Windows-7I personally turn off as much of it as I can, and apart from that I don’t really care all that much as long as it doesn’t affect my performance.
Whether you run W7 or W10 … who cares in the end … whatever floats your boat.Thanks for the info, i’ll give it a spin before i re-format (I’m lazy so i may just keep it for gaming anyway, even though dual boot is a pain in the ass, hopefully one day we get some solid GPU passhtrough and can game in a VM)
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@Mud:
Back to the shadows with you!
I don’t wanna have NOTHING to do with Shad……:p
He’s from NY!!!
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@Cloud:
I don’t wanna have NOTHING to do with Shad……:p
He’s from NY!!!
C9
I could have swore that he had a more southern accent
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I could have swore that he had a more southern accent
Uhh, wait, that might be Coco??? I MAY have to digress and Edit my post after I eat my shoe!!!
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@Cloud:
Uhh, wait, that might be Coco??? I MAY have to digress and Edit my post after I eat my shoe!!!
C9
Ask Cortana not me
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I’m late - free upgrade ended on 29/7 - but I really hope you didn’t miss the chance to take advantage of it.
Um no thanks to MS choices on Win 10 I have zero interest in it. Even at free it was unpalatable to me.
I switched to 10 several months ago and sincerely would not ever look back and also do not understand the widespread distrust against it.
I’ve seen enough of MS in action to know that they are going to do what is right by them and by no one else. If it HAPPENS to also be right for the user then it’s a bonus. They try to force their ideas of what computing should be doing (Win 8 tiles anyone?) and then when there is a huge back lash against it they blame US for the change.
The last time I checked I pay the bills for this computer not MS. As soon as they cut me a check they can treat MY computer like it’s theirs. Not one damned second sooner.
Personally, I consider 10 the best OS ever produced by Microsoft: it’s rock solid, very fast (it for sure is faster than 7 by an order of magnitude)
Faster than Win 7 I will give you. Magnitudes faster? Um no. I have beta tested Win 10 since it was first available to test so I have been able to compare the two directly.
simple to use and well organized, constantly and automatically upgraded in order to keep it smooth and secure, absolutely NO compatibility problems with BMS and the whole bunch of software I use everyday. What else could you - “man that walks down the street” - ask to an OS?
Oh I don’t know. How about the same level of control over what is updated to my OS just like I do with Win 7? Or control over what MS can and cannot take from my system in the parlance of “telemetry”?
I am not talking about having to dig in and do registry entries or such. EVERY bit of those two options should have easy on/off switches that MS can NOT change on a whim. For those who are digging into the registry etc. to turn things off at the end of the day that can be fools gold as MS can just as easily force patch your Win 10 to turn them right back on and remove the ability to turn it off. Thanks but NO thanks.
As for privacy concerns, it’s enough to use the tools the OS itself provides you with to control it or follow one of the dozens guides you’ll find on the Internet to be reasonably safe if you - as the majority of people - don’t need to hide who knows what
You know here in the USA we have this thing called the fourth amendment to the constitution which protects against unreasonable search and seizure. This is nothing to do with hiding anything. This has everything to do with it is MY computer and what I do with it is no damned business of MS. If that doesn’t bother you then fine enjoy your Win 10. Do not marginalize legitimate opinions because they do not fall in line with yours.
(in this case stop using Google, Gmail and all other cloud services too, thanks! ).
Yeah already don’t thanks…
On servers I no doubt prefer Linux and all the above is just my humble opinion, but I think it’s a fact that with 10 MS offered an excellent client product, ideal for most people daily use.
For those who do not care if MS takes over control of their computers sure. Granted there are a lot of people that don’t care and if they don’t then sure Win 10 is a solid choice. For people like me that was a non starter as soon as it became obvious what MS was doing.
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@Mud:
I’m on 14393 Redstone (Anniversary build) and Cortana can still be disabled. The search can also be completely removed with some scripting.
Yeah no thanks. I refuse to play a back and forth game with MS over control of MY computer. You can fix that now then MS will just counter with something else to attempt to force end users into only using their products ala bing, cortana, etc.
@Mud:
Windows 7 is also pushing updates which do telemetry lately. So don’t think you’re “safe” there.
Yes I am safe. Just as anyone who pays attention to the updates on Win 8 and older is. Simply because without my direct permission NONE of that telemetry garbage gets installed onto my Win 7 computer. Which none of it got permission. It got un-checked and hidden as an “update”. For those who do not pay attention or care then they might as well be on Win 10.
@Mud:
I personally turn off as much of it as I can, and apart from that I don’t really care all that much as long as it doesn’t affect my performance.
Whether you run W7 or W10 … who cares in the end … whatever floats your boat.Which is fine. Just because you turn it off in Win 10 doesn’t mean it will stay off or that MS won’t patch that away. It isn’t your computer under Win 10.
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Which is fine. Just because you turn it off in Win 10 doesn’t mean it will stay off or that MS won’t patch that away. It isn’t your computer under Win 10.
And what exactly makes you think you have complete control of your Windows 7? We all know, or should know, that there’s only one alternative at the moment and that is Linux. And I’m not talking about the popular distro’s like Ubuntu, but rather distro’s like Slackware. For gaming, not a very viable option.
I’ve been on W10 for a year and I can’t say I’ve felt for a moment that my pc didn’t belong to me anymore. I’m an system admin for a company with +100k employees and we’re moving to W10 within the next 6-12 months. I guess if it were that bad, the central IS/IT team is making a terrible mistake, no?
If they want to data mine, I’ll let them on my gaming rig as much as they want. All the big players are doing it anyway.
To finish up: I’m not as fond of 10 as I was of 7 when it came out, and I skipped 8 and 8.1. At some point you basically have no choice (dx12 for example).
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@Mud:
And what exactly makes you think you have complete control of your Windows 7?
Because my updates are set to announce only. I then go into the Windows Update utility and read each and every one. This is how none of the telemetry garbage or “Get Windows 10” garbage ever saw the light of day on my computer. That is control. MS can not install anything on this computer without my explicit permission to do so.
@Mud:
I’ve been on W10 for a year and I can’t say I’ve felt for a moment that my pc didn’t belong to me anymore.
If losing that control and that level of intrusiveness doesn’t bother you that is fine. This doesn’t prove a thing.
@Mud:
I’m an system admin for a company with +100k employees and we’re moving to W10 within the next 6-12 months. I guess if it were that bad, the central IS/IT team is making a terrible mistake, no?
Enterprise edition is a completely different animal thanks to the custom software that a lot of businesses run and MS gave more control over updates to businesses for that very reason. Enterprise edition also costs money per year per user. The individual users don’t have much of a say as the computer isn’t theirs. It is the businesses. Straw man arguments don’t fly.
@Mud:
If they want to data mine, I’ll let them on my gaming rig as much as they want. All the big players are doing it anyway.
Heh I am not going the way of the lemmings.
@Mud:
To finish up: I’m not as fond of 10 as I was of 7 when it came out, and I skipped 8 and 8.1. At some point you basically have no choice (dx12 for example).
DX12 won’t be a forcing point for a VERY long time to come. Granted I won’t see the DX12 improvements in my gaming but Win 7 and this computer will be LONG gone before DX11 isn’t supported or used anymore. New games always come with backwards compatibility so people still using DX11 will be able to enjoy new games. I think BMS still using DX9 just fine is a good example of they potential staying power of not bleeding edge DX.
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About Cortana: it’s available in only a dozen or so selected regions, and in the rest of the world it’s just not available at all. No Corana search bar, no speech recognition functions (other than those built-in system like in previous Windows versions… but those usually are not available at all in native languages, either) etc. So while some try to or want to disable, many people actually would want to be able to enable such functionality.
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About Cortana: it’s available in only a dozen or so selected regions, and in the rest of the world it’s just not available at all. No Corana search bar, no speech recognition functions (other than those built-in system like in previous Windows versions… but those usually are not available at all in native languages, either) etc. So while some try to or want to disable, many people actually would want to be able to enable such functionality.
Is Siri available in Poland or its the same ? What about Ok Google ?
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Enterprise edition is a completely different animal thanks to the custom software that a lot of businesses run and MS gave more control over updates to businesses for that very reason. Enterprise edition also costs money per year per user. The individual users don’t have much of a say as the computer isn’t theirs. It is the businesses. Straw man arguments don’t fly.
I’ll get back to you on that once I know which version we’ll be running. Currently (W7) it’s Pro, not Enterprise.
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@Mud:
I’ll get back to you on that once I know which version we’ll be running. Currently (W7) it’s Pro, not Enterprise.
Even if the business uses pro versus enterprise the fact remains that the employees don’t own those computers the business does. So the business is the one accepting the conditions. The business doesn’t have to worry about something like MS industrial espionage or anything of that sort. Trying to compare individual users on home computers to business employees on business computers is an apples to oranges comparison on many levels.
Since the pro version doesn’t have the same level of control over updates if that business is also using several pieces of custom or business specific pieces of software they could be in for a rude awakening on a forced update that breaks something the business requires for use. I was also a network administrator but for the USAF back in the day and we had people that required very old/outdated software and making everything play nice was fun.
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Even if the business uses pro versus enterprise the fact remains that the employees don’t own those computers the business does. So the business is the one accepting the conditions. The business doesn’t have to worry about something like MS industrial espionage or anything of that sort. Trying to compare individual users on home computers to business employees on business computers is an apples to oranges comparison on many levels.
Yes no one should worry about Microsoft business practice
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Is Siri available in Poland or its the same ? What about Ok Google ?
Siri is not blocked so you can use it, but it doesn’t support our language, and some advanced functions may not work here. OK Google and Google Now seem to support Polish.
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Hey Cortana… do you know more than Siri?
Hey Cortana where is Siri?
Hey Cortana which is sexier? You or Siri?
Hey Cortana r u there?
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Hmmm in Exorcist the evil was a girl…
In win10 Cortana is a girl…
Hmmm Mo is right afterall…
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