HMCS Questions
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HMCS - in some situations - can be “handy”.
- for me personally - usefull for getting quick confirmations of bandits energy state, in which there is little “geometric-time-window” to do so using FCR.
- or getting locks in wired attitudes, where “body-stabilized” ACM modes just dont cut it.
But that is where it ends for me!
The ability to lock “off-bore sight” can also be done with the FCR. Very fast and very close and efficiently.
Both ways you use the same antenna with the same gimble-limits, right? Doh!The key difference is THIS:
If you use HMCS, your need to SEE the bandit !!
If you use FCR, you dont have to SEE the bandit !! (… its is enough to know where his estimated area/location is ^^)In dogfights (WVR) - even in 2-cricles - i use FCR TWS (or ACM slew lately) - at 5nm-10nm Radar MFD range.
- i just slew and elevate the radar gate to where the bandit is
- TAP once or twice on TMS right (if in TWS)
- vio la… the bandit shows up in the FCR - with data. No need to move cursor over him at all (the radar already “sees”, you just “read out first target”)
- in both cases, using FCR or HMCS… one has to take off eyes and look down to the MFD page anyways to get a read.
Lately i started using ACM-Slew mode in ways i did not before
What other people prefer or believe works for them best… that they shall do.
Sidenote:
“FCR gimbals are handled differently whether the FCR is in a space-stabilized mode (like RWS, TWS, ACM-Slew) or body-stabilized (ACM-Bore, ACM-10x60, ACM-20x30).”
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@A.S:
If you use FCR, you dont have to SEE the bandit !! (… its is enough to know where his estimated area/location is ^^)
This is what often gets me turned into tinfoil confetti
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This is what often gets me turned into tinfoil confetti
Hehe.
Well, preferable is visually tally ofc - and only to look away in moments, in which a “look back” will not make the bandit “disapear” (loose him). You like doing that (saw in your videos).
Primarily relying on FCR is wrong i think.
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If you haven’t tried it yet, try the lvl 1 2 3 clutter options through the DED. Hands on DMS down select is useful as well. The 90 degree AIM-9X HOB ability is God-like in a knife fight. I always think it has missed when it really hasn’t had enough time to maneuver for the kill yet so wait for that second shot.
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…now we’re onto something.
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Yes! I re-read that this weekend (rtfm?!).
I just have to stop whining and practice with it. This thread coulda been handled that way, but I got some extra feedback that’s nice on guys techniques.
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The 90 degree AIM-9X HOB ability is God-like in a knife fight
90° ??? How is that supposed to work with no optical sensor and radar gimble limits of the antenna less than 90° ???
The Aim-9x probably can squint cross-eyed that much … but not your HMCS !?
Hmm wait… the missile-seaker slaved to the HMCS maybe?
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@A.S:
Hmm wait… the missile-seaker slaved to the HMCS maybe?
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@A.S:
90° ??? How is that supposed to work with no optical sensor and radar gimble limits of the antenna less than 90° ???
The Aim-9x probably can squint cross-eyed that much … but not your HMCS !?
Hmm wait… the missile-seaker slaved to the HMCS maybe?
Yes. Its called BORE mode as i explained few posts ago.
You do not need radar lock. If you can see your targets and have AIM-9s you just use HMCS (or even HUD). AIM-9s are not radar guided so they can work without.AIM-9X has thrust vectoring and HOB FPA seeker. It was designed to work with aircraft equipped with HMCS to provide HOB capability. Pythoon 5, R-73, ASRAAM, IRIS-T… …All have nice HOB, however R-73 uses eyeball seeker instead of god’s eye FPA.
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/offtopic, sort of,
i’ve had to add it to my personal crosscheck to shut OFF the hmcs right before going precontact or landing
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@b.s.:
/offtopic, sort of,
i’ve had to add it to my personal crosscheck to shut OFF the hmcs right before going precontact or landing
…pretty sure that’s SOP.
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@b.s.:
/offtopic, sort of,
i’ve had to add it to my personal crosscheck to shut OFF the hmcs right before going precontact or landing
I think that’s what most virtual pilots I know do as well. They keep it on almost all the time.
I actually do the opposite : I only use it for WVR air combat. I don’t like having it in my field of view when I don’t need it, but in my experience I’m usually the only one doing that. -
I think that’s what most virtual pilots I know do as well. They keep it on almost all the time.
I actually do the opposite : I only use it for WVR air combat. I don’t like having it in my field of view when I don’t need it, but in my experience I’m usually the only one doing that.…I doubt it. VW and/or RW. And when I mentioned turning it off for tanking and landing, I was talking RW SOP…AFAIK, for Navy ops. Fly Navy!
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To be honest, I don’t have the slightest idea what your point is.
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If link16 is ever modeled then you might want to keep it on a lot more because it’ll give you lots of extra useful symbology all the time.
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Do link16 also brings extra symbology on TGP screen like in A-10C?
And it would be nice to get datalinked target symbols on TGP for IDM as we have no link16 ATM, even when we all love to have it…So devs please give us link16…
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It does. There are some Dutch F-16 videos out on youtube where you can see what another wingman is targeting (his SPI).
Do link16 also brings extra symbology on TGP screen like in A-10C?
And it would be nice to get datalinked target symbols on TGP for IDM as we have no link16 ATM, even when we all love to have it…So devs please give us link16…
