Falcon BMS Forum
    • Categories
    • Unread
    • Recent
    • Unsolved
    • Popular
    • Website
    • Wiki
    • Discord
    • Register
    • Login

    Another Hall Sensor upgrade

    Cougar
    cougar hall sensor mod thustmaster hall sensor hall sensor
    29
    162
    7.4k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • I
      indy2000
      last edited by

      I have seen this fellow, MilesD, on youtube with a slick hall sensor upgrade

      The person is on these forums, of late, http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160613

      Tried search here, no luck,

      Has anybody here used this upgrade?

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • R
        Rich_EXF
        last edited by

        Not that one specifically. I have modded my throttle are per this thread and it works well.

        http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=69785

        Could maybe be used on the stick too if you want hall effect sensors on the stick but i went for force sensing instead.

        I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • I
          indy2000 @Rich_EXF
          last edited by

          I did notice that, thank you for the idea.

          on the fence with force sense right now….

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • J
            J_P
            last edited by

            @indy2000:

            I have seen this fellow, MilesD, on youtube with a slick hall sensor upgrade

            The person is on these forums, of late, http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160613

            Tried search here, no luck,

            Has anybody here used this upgrade?

            check this thread.

            I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • I
              indy2000 @J_P
              last edited by

              @J_P:

              check this thread.

              You PM the person here, or on that link?

              I could not register on that site to PM them, had some weird , I am not a robot, verification that did not work.

              I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • I
                indy2000 @indy2000
                last edited by

                Well, heard nothing

                so jumped into the FSSb r2 and tusba and rusba……

                should have them next week.

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • StevieS
                  Stevie
                  last edited by

                  I have a TUSBA R2 and love it. Personally, I think the upgrade to 12 bit resolution is just as good as any Hall sensor mod…you will notice the difference in control over a stock 10 bit Cougar.

                  May the bridges I burn light the way

                  N I IcarusI 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • N
                    NamelessPFG @Stevie
                    last edited by

                    I’d consider opting for that upgrade if it also came with an equivalent to the UTM bushings, since I’d be clamping something around the throttle shaft anyway. Might as well replace the crappy plastic stock bushings.

                    But since it doesn’t, I might as well nab whatever Hall sensor and linkages Sokol1 used and do it that way.

                    @Stevie:

                    I have a TUSBA R2 and love it. Personally, I think the upgrade to 12 bit resolution is just as good as any Hall sensor mod…you will notice the difference in control over a stock 10 bit Cougar.

                    Part of that’s because the only 10-bit resolution axes on the Cougar are the stick X and Y axes to begin with. Everything else just gets 8-bit resolution sampling, including all the throttle axes. For something with as much range of motion as the throttle axis, you’re bound to notice the improvement.

                    However, the TUSBA R2’s inherent incompatibility with TARGET is what rules it out for me. Part of the appeal of the Cougar is that it’s one DirectInput device, which complicates things a lot less for games in general, if not Falcon BMS specifically due to it being multi-controller-aware for years. The only workaround is to create a TARGET virtual controller.

                    I StevieS 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • I
                      indy2000 @Stevie
                      last edited by

                      @Stevie:

                      I have a TUSBA R2 and love it. Personally, I think the upgrade to 12 bit resolution is just as good as any Hall sensor mod…you will notice the difference in control over a stock 10 bit Cougar.

                      Thank you, looking forward to this upgrade.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • I
                        indy2000 @NamelessPFG
                        last edited by

                        NamelessPFG,

                        Are the UTM bushings, still be made and sold?

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • AV8RA
                          AV8R
                          last edited by

                          I have read this entire 13 page thread, and as one that owns almost every Cougar mod devised, I have too say I am impressed as heck. I ordered a set just to try it out myself. This mod could be the most economical way to bring a stock Cougar set back to life by replacing pots and gimbals with hall sensors for both the stick and throttle.

                          He is also making a TQS PCB replacement which will be good because they are no longer available from TM. It will have its own USB cable so it won’t plug into the Cougar stick base, which is good news because it makes the TQS standalone, the downside is it won’t be TUSBA compatible.

                          Proof is in the pudding though, so until I receive and test against my other Cougar sets (FCC3, FSSB-R1, TUSBA-R2 and I have a Cubby HS stick somewhere), I cannot vouche for it yet. But it sure looks promising.

                          @indy2000:

                          I have seen this fellow, MilesD, on youtube with a slick hall sensor upgrade

                          The person is on these forums, of late, http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=160613

                          Tried search here, no luck,

                          Has anybody here used this upgrade?

                          I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • StevieS
                            Stevie @NamelessPFG
                            last edited by

                            @NamelessPFG:

                            I’d consider opting for that upgrade if it also came with an equivalent to the UTM bushings, since I’d be clamping something around the throttle shaft anyway. Might as well replace the crappy plastic stock bushings.

                            But since it doesn’t, I might as well nab whatever Hall sensor and linkages Sokol1 used and do it that way.

                            Part of that’s because the only 10-bit resolution axes on the Cougar are the stick X and Y axes to begin with. Everything else just gets 8-bit resolution sampling, including all the throttle axes. For something with as much range of motion as the throttle axis, you’re bound to notice the improvement.

                            However, the TUSBA R2’s inherent incompatibility with TARGET is what rules it out for me. Part of the appeal of the Cougar is that it’s one DirectInput device, which complicates things a lot less for games in general, if not Falcon BMS specifically due to it being multi-controller-aware for years. The only workaround is to create a TARGET virtual controller.

                            I gave up on TARGET a looong time ago…I have enough other outboard utilities running to support my pit that I don’t need one more hogging my CPU. At this point, if it’s not native to BMS or something I need to support my interface electronics, I do without it.

                            May the bridges I burn light the way

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • I
                              indy2000 @AV8R
                              last edited by

                              @AV8R:

                              I have read this entire 13 page thread, and as one that owns almost every Cougar mod devised, I have too say I am impressed as heck. I ordered a set just to try it out myself. This mod could be the most economical way to bring a stock Cougar set back to life by replacing pots and gimbals with hall sensors for both the stick and throttle.

                              He is also making a TQS PCB replacement which will be good because they are no longer available from TM. It will have its own USB cable so it won’t plug into the Cougar stick base, which is good news because it makes the TQS standalone, the downside is it won’t be TUSBA compatible.

                              Proof is in the pudding though, so until I receive and test against my other Cougar sets (FCC3, FSSB-R1, TUSBA-R2 and I have a Cubby HS stick somewhere), I cannot vouche for it yet. But it sure looks promising.

                              How were you able to order it?

                              AV8RA 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • AV8RA
                                AV8R @indy2000
                                last edited by

                                Pm Miles at the DCS site

                                I 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • I
                                  indy2000 @AV8R
                                  last edited by

                                  @AV8R:

                                  Pm Miles at the DCS site

                                  cannot register

                                  they have a funky ‘robot’ hoop to jump through.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • IcarusI
                                    Icarus @Stevie
                                    last edited by

                                    @Stevie:

                                    I have a TUSBA R2 and love it. Personally, I think the upgrade to 12 bit resolution is just as good as any Hall sensor mod…you will notice the difference in control over a stock 10 bit Cougar.

                                    +1

                                    System Specs:

                                    Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

                                    Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

                                    MilesDM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • MilesDM
                                      MilesD @Icarus
                                      last edited by

                                      Hey Guys,
                                      Miles Here. I just started to monitor this forum. If your interested in the cougar hall sensor Kits you can PM me here.
                                      $40.00 USD Throttle
                                      $55.00 USD Flightstick
                                      Shipping and paypal fees
                                      U.S. $6.75
                                      Across the pond $17.50
                                      Thanks
                                      Miles

                                      ddocD S 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • ddocD
                                        ddoc @MilesD
                                        last edited by

                                        This mod from MilesD fwiw is terrific, I received mine a few months back, it’s really easy to install and configure and it works perfectly with RS TUSBA > I waited much longer for a replacement Z pot from TM so long, I almost forgot about it and tbh I can now forget about it because I am delighted with the mod from Miles, he’s cured a lot of headaches with this one.

                                        IcarusI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • jcenzanoJ
                                          jcenzano
                                          last edited by

                                          @Miles, you have PM

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • IcarusI
                                            Icarus @ddoc
                                            last edited by

                                            @ddoc:

                                            This mod from MilesD fwiw is terrific, I received mine a few months back, it’s really easy to install and configure and it works perfectly with RS TUSBA > I waited much longer for a replacement Z pot from TM so long, I almost forgot about it and tbh I can now forget about it because I am delighted with the mod from Miles, he’s cured a lot of headaches with this one.

                                            +1

                                            System Specs:

                                            Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

                                            Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

                                            ZeightZ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post

                                            59

                                            Online

                                            10.0k

                                            Users

                                            21.7k

                                            Topics

                                            357.3k

                                            Posts
                                            Benchmark Sims - All rights reserved ©