F15

[abdo-totti]

is just absolute wreckage if i pull to much during takeoff/COMBAT the jet either goes nose down/up sometimes the plane becomes like im flying C-5,

unable to recover the jet either it goes up stalls or down to crash

any possible fix for the nose down/up?

many times i discarded missions just because that happens.

[Viper1970]

Hello abdo-totti,

I haven’t had the time to fly much with BMS 4.33.1, cause I’m busy with building my pit. But as far as I have shortly testflight some of the new birds, specially the F-15E, cause its besides the F-14 one of my favorite, they behave very realistic in terms of flight-behavior.

So if you pull to much in a real fighter aircraft with full weapon loadout you get a stall. If you want an agile bird, just because that someone begins a dogfight with you, you have to jettison your ground ordinance.

And yes, a fully loaded F-15, F-16 or what else flies a little bit like a C-5. That’s not unrealistic. Its just a matter of kinetic energy and aerodymamics.

[Stevie]

Also - expect trim changes when you jett or release stores. Or lower/raise flaps. That’s part of the dynamics too, and the pitch up/down…real deal.

[abdo-totti]

6 aim120c
2 aim-9
That’s hardly any weight.

I never go AA combat with stores.

I’m using 4.33 I didn’t download ui version yet.

@Stevie:

Also - expect trim changes when you jett or release stores. Or lower/raise flaps. That’s part of the dynamics too, and the pitch up/down…real deal.

Thing is I’m unable to recover.

[Stevie]

The F-15 is a heavy airplane to begin with - don’t expect it to fly like a Viper (in fact, if you have an F-15E with conformal tanks you have an additional 5 TONS of fuel onboard), you’ll likely have to learn to anticipate and lead it; more power, more GWT, more inertia…just need to practice and figure out how the basic airplane flies - go out and free fly the thing a few weeks before you try fighting with it. Then you’ll be sharper.

Also - remember that only the Viper has an AOA limiter…so don’t out pull the Eagle! This is likely where you’re getting into trouble.

[TommyGun]

It might be one of the problems that were sorted out in the latest release. Abdo-totti says he’s still using the previous 4.33. I fly the F-15 quite a lot in 4.33 U1, usually the “C” version with the typical AA loadout, and I’ve never experienced the kind of weird aircraft behaviour he describes.

[Quasi_Stellar]

Having never flown the 15 or any other twin engine a/c, this is an outside observation. Is your throttle reving up both engines? Half your thrust might explain the lack of rotation speed….

[abdo-totti]

@Quasi_Stellar:

Having never flown the 15 or any other twin engine a/c, this is an outside observation. Is your throttle reving up both engines? Half your thrust might explain the lack of rotation speed….

Kb/m here.

[pumafoot1]

I love the F-15 but The AA and AG button do not work for me So I just don’t fly it They must work for others as I see in you tube Vids

[Planehazza]

@abdo-totti:

Kb/m here.

You’re really going to struggle to fly any aicraft with mouse and keyboard. No offense, it isn’t battlefield 3. You’ll find it much easier even with a cheap joy stick.

[molnibalage]

@abdo-totti:

is just absolute wreckage if i pull to much during takeoff/COMBAT the jet either goes nose down/up sometimes the plane becomes like im flying C-5,

unable to recover the jet either it goes up stalls or down to crash

any possible fix for the nose down/up?

many times i discarded missions just because that happens.

Do not go above 22-23 deg AoA. It is pointless. The Cl goes only 5-6% up comparing to 20 deg AoA while the Cd goes up with 100%…
Where F-15 loves the air is high supersonic not slow speeds. Keep your airspeed above 300-350 KCAS.

[abdo-totti]

@pumafoot1:

I love the F-15 but The AA and AG button do not work for me So I just don’t fly it They must work for others as I see in you tube Vids

f5/f6