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    • dmjohnsnx2
      dmjohnsnx2 last edited by

      I made a major mistake with the OP so I am deleting the bad stuff I said because I had obviously not done any due diligence to check the sim.

      Therefore I am editing over my comments, but to those who have replied, thank you for helping me understand the sim.

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      • gza036
        gza036 last edited by

        You pulled the trigger to shoot huh… were you even in Dogfight mode?

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        • PAVEWAY
          PAVEWAY last edited by

          Seriously speaking.

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          • Rybo
            Rybo @PAVEWAY last edited by

            So you came here to say that you’re seriously unimpressed after you didn’t do your due diligence and review the hundreds of pages of documentation included with BMS? Hmm… how can I put this. Very disappointed.

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            • Agave_Blue
              Agave_Blue last edited by

              @dmjohnsnx2:

              …. My 2nd flight in Fighter Sweep I had an enemy plane right in front of me, I pulled the trigger to shoot…Chaff and Flares! Seriously? Instead of bullets I dropped Chaff and Flares…

              Not a sim problem. Sorry. That’s on the user having the wrong command bound to the trigger.

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              • JetwasH
                JetwasH @Rybo last edited by

                I just lost my coffee after reading this…Very disappointed! :wfish:

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                • DUSTOFF17
                  DUSTOFF17 last edited by

                  @dmjohnsnx2:

                  After having flown F4AF this “New” look hmm… how can I put this. Very dissappointed. From everything I read about this new look to get pilots back to the flight sims I expected a super look straight out of the box.

                  If by ‘new look’ you mean graphics update then BMS 4.3X has made huge leaps and bounds since the old F4AF days. Just have a look in the screenshots thread and check out some of the awesome models, texture, theaters and environments that we get to fly in!

                  With regard to having issues with controls, what joystick/hotas do you use? There is a section of the forum with just about every conceivable hardware setup and profile available for download. This means the amount of work that you, the end user, needs to do is almost zero to get up and running. The next thing to do straight after that is to start with the ‘BMS-Training’ manual located in the docs section of your install (accessible from the launcher) the ‘BMS-Training’ manual is the easiest way to get basic grips with the systems. Once you’re familiar with the basics you can then use the -34 and -1 manuals to supplement and expand your knowledge.

                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVz9sznGEbEtfBAdUXC1pAg

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                  • Halcyon
                    Halcyon @JetwasH last edited by

                    Sounds like Falcon 4.0 is a better fit for ya.

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                    • schnidrman
                      schnidrman @DUSTOFF17 last edited by

                      @DUSTOFF17:

                      If by ‘new look’ you mean graphics update then BMS 4.3X has made huge leaps and bounds since the old F4AF days. Just have a look in the screenshots thread and check out some of the awesome models, texture, theaters and environments that we get to fly in!

                      With regard to having issues with controls, what joystick/hotas do you use? There is a section of the forum with just about every conceivable hardware setup and profile available for download. This means the amount of work you as the end user needs to do is almost zero to get up and running. The next thing to do straight after that is to start with the ‘BMS-Training’ manual located in the docs section of your install (accessible from the launcher) the ‘BMS-Training’ manual is the easiest way to get basic grips with the systems. Once you’re familiar with the basics you can then use the -34 and -1 manuals to supplement and expand your knowledge.

                      +1

                      You might also want to include some info, like system specs. and what kind of hardware are you using, Configuration settings?? etc. It makes it a lot easier to help if we know a little bit about what you are working with.

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                      • Drillin
                        Drillin last edited by

                        Sigh……is there something in the forum water these days or what???..

                        Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk

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                        • Arty
                          Arty @Drillin last edited by

                          No prob m8 u can continue flying af .
                          Enjoy. We r happy u will if u return to af.
                          So a win win.
                          Take care.

                          HOT LISTalt text

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                          i7-2600K @ 4.8 Ghz WaterCooled / 16GB Ram. 128GB SSD/1TB SSD / GTX980Ti 6GB DDR5 / HOTAS COUGAR. TrackIR 4 / 3x24" Mon. (res:5760x1200) / Cougar MFD's / Wheel Pedals / Win 10 64 bit.

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                          • mvsgas
                            mvsgas last edited by

                            @dmjohnsnx2:

                            After having flown F4AF this “New” look hmm… how can I put this. Very dissappointed. From everything I read about this new look to get pilots back to the flight sims I expected a super look straight out of the box. Now granted, I have now downloaded the 2nd update, but I don’t know if I missed something about the sim. The MFD’s need magnifying glasses to see. I thought I would get to shoot from the begining, I did go through the key setup to make sure I could get the feel for some stuff. My 2nd flight in Fighter Sweep I had an enemy plane right in front of me, I pulled the trigger to shoot…Chaff and Flares! Seriously? Instead of bullets I dropped Chaff and Flares.

                            I still have my F4.0 still installed so I can go back to that if this doesn’t work out.

                            I’m sure there will be plenty of comments for me to try. I will take everyone’s advice for the sim to see what I can come up with. And yes, I did change the resolution.

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                            • DUSTOFF17
                              DUSTOFF17 @mvsgas last edited by

                              Eh guys, c’mon - it’s not that hard to just stay chill and help this guy out. Relative so some of the other FNG’s we’ve had on this forum lately he’s relatively harmless and will realize the error of his ways with a little help.

                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVz9sznGEbEtfBAdUXC1pAg

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                              • Arty
                                Arty @DUSTOFF17 last edited by

                                We’ll he is not asking for any help.
                                He says he tried and he is not impressed judging by his eyes only.
                                Also he says there will be many comments for him to try.

                                Since u already fly m8 compare manuals. Read them and then say if you are impressed or not. And I’m not talking about the cover or the number of pages.
                                It’s more than meets the eye.

                                HOT LISTalt text

                                System Specs:

                                i7-2600K @ 4.8 Ghz WaterCooled / 16GB Ram. 128GB SSD/1TB SSD / GTX980Ti 6GB DDR5 / HOTAS COUGAR. TrackIR 4 / 3x24" Mon. (res:5760x1200) / Cougar MFD's / Wheel Pedals / Win 10 64 bit.

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                                • NIL
                                  NIL @Arty last edited by

                                  No comment

                                  Greetings

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                                  • DUSTOFF17
                                    DUSTOFF17 @Arty last edited by

                                    @Arty:

                                    We’ll he is not asking for any help.
                                    He says he tried and he is not impressed judging by his eyes only.
                                    Also he says there will be many comments for him to try.

                                    Since u already fly m8 compare manuals. Read them and then say if you are impressed or not. And I’m not talking about the cover or the number of pages.
                                    It’s more than meets the eye.

                                    Just because he’s not asking for help doesn’t mean he clearly doesn’t need it. 😉

                                    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVz9sznGEbEtfBAdUXC1pAg

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                                    • JetwasH
                                      JetwasH @Drillin last edited by

                                      @Drillin:

                                      Sigh……is there something in the forum water these days or what???..

                                      Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk

                                      :rofl:

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                                      • Planehazza
                                        Planehazza last edited by

                                        @dmjohnsnx2:

                                        After having flown F4AF this “New” look hmm… how can I put this. Very dissappointed. From everything I read about this new look to get pilots back to the flight sims I expected a super look straight out of the box. Now granted, I have now downloaded the 2nd update, but I don’t know if I missed something about the sim. The MFD’s need magnifying glasses to see. I thought I would get to shoot from the begining, I did go through the key setup to make sure I could get the feel for some stuff. My 2nd flight in Fighter Sweep I had an enemy plane right in front of me, I pulled the trigger to shoot…Chaff and Flares! Seriously? Instead of bullets I dropped Chaff and Flares.

                                        I still have my F4.0 still installed so I can go back to that if this doesn’t work out.

                                        I’m sure there will be plenty of comments for me to try. I will take everyone’s advice for the sim to see what I can come up with. And yes, I did change the resolution.

                                        Off you go to make your own highly accurate/detailed Viper sim, FOR FREE then.

                                        Don’t let the door hit you on your way there.

                                        Sounds like your key file/joystick mapping isn’t set up right. I recommend you read the manuals and come back with a more polite request for help 😉

                                        Harry (Formerly Amraam at Frugals etc.)

                                        (I'm not currently active with ViperDrivers, but these guys are the best BMS school out there!)

                                        BMS Reshade Preset

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                                        • Dee-Jay
                                          Dee-Jay last edited by

                                          Excellent thread! Very funny! 😄

                                          @dmjohnsnx2:

                                          I will take everyone’s advice for the sim to see what I can come up with.

                                          • Take the time to search on the forum.
                                          • Take the time to RTFM. (Read The Famous Manual)
                                          • Puschase a Track Ir.
                                          • Keep AF installed, maybe BMS is not good for you.

                                          Good “luck”.

                                          Edit: Manuals are located into the “Docs” folder.

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                                          • dmjohnsnx2
                                            dmjohnsnx2 @gza036 last edited by

                                            First of all I want to say that I did not intend to be rude or offend any of those who obviously worked for such a long time to get this program put together. I do have issues where my mouth starts moving before my mind kicks into gear. I was only putting my frustrations out.

                                            But I did say that I will take everyones advice. I’m not the ass my last comment made it sound like.

                                            I assumed I was in dogfight mode due to the firing funnel that was showing.
                                            I went through the setup along with the keystroke list. I wanted to make sure that I would be able to do the basics in Fighter Sweep, and Moving Mud. I have used both of those as training to understand how the real missions would go.

                                            I spent approximately 5 hours trying to get the the system set up, between not having the correct app, torrent, and the first .zip file I downloaded being corrupted, and the ever present “you must restart your computer for these changes to take efffect”. I do admit that there are so many more moving parts than I found to be in F4AFand I was expecting every thing to be the same.
                                            When I went through the keystroke file, I did make changes that should have taken effect, and about a thousand more that I do not understand yet. As for doing my due diligence, I did read about the new system, I went through the FAQ’s, and read some of the forum that would apply to those like me that are new to this particular program. But no, I didn’t read the hundreds of pages that are with HMS.

                                            I owe, and am apologizing for my comments. I have earned the scorn of all the other users of the sim, this forum, and the developers.
                                            I will not slink away from the approriate comments from each of you, but I do understand if you wish that I leave this forum. I will leave it to the members and moderators to decide what is appropriate.

                                            I do humbly apologize.

                                            I did ask for and was given help earlier when I could not get the .zip file to download. The advice was exactly what I needed for that.

                                            I am not using this as an excuse, but to let you know a small bit about me. I was injured in an IED blast in May 2007 in Ramadi, Iraq. My doctors recommended I do a new hobby, learn a new language, or anything else that would help the wires in my brain to reconnect, and start growing new pathways. I chose Falcon 4 because I had flown Falcon 3 a couple decades earlier. I have the book for F4AF, printed cheat sheets with the keystrokes listed, and I printed out chapters so I could carry them with me to read when my wife would be driving us somewhere. Mostly to learn about the flight characteristics, weapons, electronics, avionics, etc…maybe I didn’t do my due diligence on the new system, but I have read just about everything I could get my hands on for F4AF. My “issue” is that my short term memory is very short, I get frustrated very easily, and as I said earlier, my mouth starts moving before my brain starts thinking.

                                            Now that you may understand a small bit about what caused my disrespectful rant, I will answer all questions put to me, and will listen to all advice I can get. I very much wanted an updated version of the game. I was “commissioned” in 2008, I flew as much as I could back then and was pleased when the next portions came out, and I was very pleased to find that there were those who wouldn’t let the community die out. After flying, working with the training modules, working on getting my HOTAS profiled I would be off on another project in life and would only fly a few times a month, and that was only the training exercises. But while away from flying I would lose what I had learned about flying. I would go through this type of yoyoing back and forth between flying and other things, and then needing to refresh myself.
                                            Now that winter is approaching I have been looking for more inside stuff to do. I dusted off my flight controllers, dusted out my computer tower, and started flying again.

                                            I’m not sure where I first saw the video trailer for this sim, but I wanted to get it to see what is like to fly a more realistic set up.
                                            And this is what leads up to my apology for being an idiot and an ass. Again I most humbly apologize.

                                            My equipment:
                                            Saitek X52 HOTAS
                                            Windows Home 7 Premium 64-bit OS with Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q9300 @2.5 GHz
                                            8GB RAM
                                            My monitors are HP w1907, with the wide monitors I have had some issue with running video at the Monitors recommended resolution. I ran the res in F4AF at a 4:3 ratio, if I ran it any higher the screen would squish in and I had to be right up on the monitor to see anything, including the MFD’s
                                            For video I installed NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti.
                                            Currently I have started using Mad Catz X52 Pro Flight profile editor.

                                            I think that covers every thing that was commented about.
                                            Does anyone else have any questions or should I just go away?

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