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    • Uncle_Rollo
      Uncle_Rollo last edited by

      I played this game long time ago and am getting back into it. Built my own track clip and PS3eye, works great. But I can’t remember what all the dang buttons do. Could someone help me by filling in the blanks? I have figured out the TMS up is to lock a target and down is to cancel lock. Does it do more than that? What about all the others? TMS left and right? CMS UPLR?, DMS UPLR? I wish the manual were searchable…

      TMS Up Lock Target
      TMS down Clear lock
      TMS left ???
      TMS right ???

      DMS Up ???
      DMS down ???
      DMS left ???
      DMS right ???

      CMS up ???
      CMS down ???
      CMS left ???
      CMS right ???

      Any others???

      Thanks

      Rollo

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      • l3crusader
        l3crusader last edited by

        @Uncle_Rollo:

        I wish the manual were searchable…

        They are, actually.

        Check Install folder ->Docs -> Falcon BMS manuals -> TO-BMS1F-16CM-1.pdf

        TMS, DMS, etc. are HOTAS switches on the real jet. Look up the Throttle and sidestick sections to know what function they do in which mode.

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        • Blu3wolf
          Blu3wolf last edited by

          the TMS in particular is contextual. DMS can be, but is not in BMS. CMS has fixed functions.

          All of them are described in detail in the dash.

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          • Earlybite
            Earlybite last edited by

            You can have a look in the Joystick section of the forum, maybe TM Warthog, and have a look for settings, or RTFM <lg>.

            TMS -> the TM (and AFAIK) stands for Target Managment

            DMS -> the DM (and AFAIK) stands for Display Managment
            DMS Up: HUD as SOI
            DMS Down: FCR, HSD, … as SOI
            DMS Left: Cycle through left MFD formats
            DMS Right: Cycle through right MFD formats

            CMS -> the CM (and AFAIK) stands for Countermeasures Managment
            CMS UP: Drop Programmed
            CMS Right: StandBy
            CMS Down: ECM On - Consent
            CMS Left: Def Jammer Program

            Or you have a look at this:

            It is from the FalconPedia, IIRC…

            HTH</lg>

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            • Blu3wolf
              Blu3wolf @Earlybite last edited by

              it might have been there, but it comes first from the -34

              Not the BMS one either. A lot of the functions there are not in the sim. For example, the TGP in BMS does not have RECCE settings, and the BMS jets are not equipped with an AIFF interrogator.

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              • Amraam
                Amraam @Blu3wolf last edited by

                This charts are not really correct. The CMS look like the CMS of the MLU, at some difference.
                Stick to the chart in the manual :).

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                • Red Dog
                  Red Dog @Amraam last edited by

                  once again, real docs may be confusing 🙂
                  as stated in this topic, stick to bms dashes

                  Red Dog
                  Reality if for ppl who can't handle simulation

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                  • Revientor
                    Revientor @Red Dog last edited by

                    RFML

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                    • D_Fens
                      D_Fens @Revientor last edited by

                      i would suggest that you learn these functions in context. For example, Don’t try and learn all the functions of the NWS/MSL-Step-Button at the same time. Learn what it does in the specific situation that you’re working on, than it’s pretty simple as you will find that there’s a system behind it and it will become quite intuitive . Learn the functions of the aircraft step by step. This goes for BMS in general.

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                      • macieksoft
                        macieksoft @Earlybite last edited by

                        @Earlybite:

                        You can have a look in the Joystick section of the forum, maybe TM Warthog, and have a look for settings, or RTFM <lg>.

                        TMS -> the TM (and AFAIK) stands for Target Managment

                        DMS -> the DM (and AFAIK) stands for Display Managment
                        DMS Up: HUD as SOI
                        DMS Down: FCR, HSD, … as SOI
                        DMS Left: Cycle through left MFD formats
                        DMS Right: Cycle through right MFD formats

                        CMS -> the CM (and AFAIK) stands for Countermeasures Managment
                        CMS UP: Drop Programmed
                        CMS Right: StandBy
                        CMS Down: ECM On - Consent
                        CMS Left: Def Jammer Program

                        Or you have a look at this:
                        http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/90b876-1479902789.jpg

                        http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/082bcf-1479902867.jpg

                        It is from the FalconPedia, IIRC…

                        HTH</lg>

                        What is SMT? I know its not in BMS but i am just curious.
                        And what is RCCE?
                        And anybody knows how Penguin MFD page looks?

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                        • rmax
                          rmax last edited by

                          @Uncle_Rollo:

                          I played this game long time ago and am getting back into it. Built my own track clip and PS3eye, works great. But I can’t remember what all the dang buttons do. Could someone help me by filling in the blanks? I have figured out the TMS up is to lock a target and down is to cancel lock. Does it do more than that? What about all the others? TMS left and right? CMS UPLR?, DMS UPLR? I wish the manual were searchable…

                          TMS Up Lock Target
                          TMS down Clear lock
                          TMS left ???
                          TMS right ???

                          DMS Up ???
                          DMS down ???
                          DMS left ???
                          DMS right ???

                          CMS up ???
                          CMS down ???
                          CMS left ???
                          CMS right ???

                          Any others???

                          Thanks

                          Rollo

                          My 2 cents… start gradually. Work out what you need to do and the commit to memory. Then expand once you are confident comfortable…unless you have the time to really cram and learn…

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                          • Agave_Blue
                            Agave_Blue @l3crusader last edited by

                            @l3crusader:

                            They are, actually.

                            Check Install folder ->Docs -> Falcon BMS manuals -> TO-BMS1F-16CM-1.pdf

                            TMS, DMS, etc. are HOTAS switches on the real jet. Look up the Throttle and sidestick sections to know what function they do in which mode.

                            Yes!!

                            Roughly pages 26 and 54 to start.

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                            • chihirobelmo
                              chihirobelmo @Agave_Blue last edited by

                              Just assign all F-16 HOTAS to your joystick and start TacticalReference with BMS-Training.pdf and you will finally understand most of HOTAS functions.

                              Oops, I should resume rest of my translation project.

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                              • Frederf
                                Frederf @chihirobelmo last edited by

                                _MS is ____ Management Switch.

                                T, Targeting.
                                D, Display.
                                C, Countermeasures.

                                DMS is up for HUD, down to swap, and left/right to cycle through the left/right screens. CMS is up to run knob program, left run program 6, down permission yes, right permission no. Those are the easy ones. Really CMS should be the last thing on your mind. You can fly 1000 hours BMS and never touch CMS and be mission effective.

                                I can’t summarize TMS with any completeness except for up is select, down is deselect, and right is the usual auxiliary function. Just take each task and situation one at a time to relearn what TMS does in each situation as you need it.

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                                • Uncle_Rollo
                                  Uncle_Rollo @Frederf last edited by

                                  Thanks all for the comments. Looks like time and training missions will help me get this down.

                                  Rollo

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                                  • drtbkj
                                    drtbkj @Uncle_Rollo last edited by

                                    @Uncle_Rollo:

                                    Thanks all for the comments. Looks like time and training missions will help me get this down.

                                    Rollo

                                    Rollo, You’ll find this a very rewarding part of BMS. When these things start to click(no pun intended) is when you’ll really get what BMS is about. It’s such a good feeling ,for example, to roll in on a target with a boresighted Maverick,“play the piano”, and get a hit

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                                    • rmax
                                      rmax @drtbkj last edited by

                                      @drtbkj:

                                      Rollo, You’ll find this a very rewarding part of BMS. When these things start to click(no pun intended) is when you’ll really get what BMS is about. It’s such a good feeling ,for example, to roll in on a target with a boresighted Maverick,“play the piano”, and get a hit

                                      If it was easy I wouldn’t do this.

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