Printing Dash -1 manual
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Hi again all,
Just wondering if anyone has printed the Dash -1 manual from home vice from a stationary store such as Staples? I would like to have a hard copy to peruse and would like to know if anyone has tried printing the manual at home compared to paying it at Staples and such stores.
Thanks!
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Depending on your printer staples would be cheaper. I printed a 500 pg Cessna POH and it was about 47 dollars. Plus they’ll coil it for you. You can buy the manuals printed off lulu I believe it is. There’s a post about it in the documentation forum.
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Color laser printer. Printed at home. 4-ring binder.
Unfortunately, I have not done the math on the costs. I will say that if you have a color inkjet printer and do your own refills, it is loads cheaper to print at home. I used to print out whole books of PDFs I bought online. With regards to the color laserjet, for the price of a set of manuals from Lulu (£161.25), I could easily print out two sets of manuals and still have toner to spare. Obviously it will still need binding and will not have the softcover…
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It’s funny to me that the entire AF is pressing hard to get away from paper copies and get all digital pubs issued on an iPad or laptop, and here we are trying to go the opposite and take digital pubs and turn them into paper books. Irony at it’s best.
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It’s funny to me that the entire AF is pressing hard to get away from paper copies and get all digital pubs issued on an iPad or laptop, and here we are trying to go the opposite and take digital pubs and turn them into paper books. Irony at it’s best.
Mortil that is pretty ironic and funny, they’re trying to find money for that F-35 anyway they can LOL! There are merits to both. The one thing about having docs on the Ipad is yes it’s accessible in flight, but how many times have you had to go through a click fest on your Ipad to pull up some info you needed while scrambling to do something else in the cockpit all at the same time. Paper let’s you flip right to the page, so it does have it’s benefits and is slightly easier to remember what you’re reading just from my experience vs a screen.
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It’s funny to me that the entire AF is pressing hard to get away from paper copies and get all digital pubs issued on an iPad or laptop, and here we are trying to go the opposite and take digital pubs and turn them into paper books. Irony at it’s best.
In fairness, its a known strength of digital publishing that you can have a rapid update schedule and not have issues tracking changes… AF docs can be updated frequently, and without wasting paper. BMS docs are updated… rather less frequently, shall we say.
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the budget allowed the BMS manual department is not the same either
that said, multiple ways are available
- home printing if you refill your own cartridge (which is more and more a problem and time consuming as well)
- home printing with commercial cartridge
(both the above still lacks a nice cover and a way to bound them. If you need to address this you will obviously spend more money - local print shop (all the ones i inquired were way more expensive than lulu for 1 copy of each manual)
(that still leave you with a lacking cover) - and finally Lulu, hassle free, nice cover, good quality job and a book to read. I seem to remember the good old days where the quality of the manual was as important of the sim itself
All the above possibilities have the disadvantage of the update process once every 2-3 years when a new BMS version becomes available.
If that is a problem, then PDF and a tablet is still a possibility … -
Digital is easy to update, but personally I love a hard copy that I can physically take notes on. For me nothing is better than pen and paper.
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Thanks all. I have a HP 5530E Inkjet, which is about six months old. It is a decent little printer. I may just try and print the smallest of the pdf files and see how that goes before I commit to the actual Dash manual. I can also check with Staples to see if I can get an estimate of the cost to print and bind it for me.
Cheers
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In fairness, its a known strength of digital publishing that you can have a rapid update schedule and not have issues tracking changes… AF docs can be updated frequently, and without wasting paper. BMS docs are updated… rather less frequently, shall we say.
The true strength is being able to search through it quickly, find diagrams and charts easier, and zoom in and out of said pictures. Being able to quickly find what systems go down or have limited functionality when you lose a power bus can be a life saver…literally. Less important in a small jet, but very handy for something like the E3 or a C17 which have multiple equipment scattered across multiple buses, not all of which are redundant.
Truth be told, most AF pubs and TOs are updated rather infrequently. There may be some small changes to checklists, corrected typos, and procedural stuff, but that all gets rolled into major changes, which typically only come out every few years for an airframe that has been around for a while. The exception being changes to checklists which address new or updated equipment, or safety bulletins–which are still rather infrequent.
Digital is easy to update, but personally I love a hard copy that I can physically take notes on. For me nothing is better than pen and paper.
Adobe PDF reader on iPad is great for this, you can hi-lite text, add notes, pictures, links to other documents, links to the web. But I can appreciate a good solid book in my hand too. Paper doesn’t lose it’s battery, get cracked screens, or corrupted hard drives, or any number of other tech related issues that held up the AF transition for a long time.
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:bowd::bowd:Suddenly I feel extremely happy with my employer who let me print the manuals on the color laser printer… at no cost…
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A local university here has color laser printers and I used to print DCS manuals there for less than £20, so that’s also an option perhaps.
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I think staples charge about 2p per page, so not too expensive.
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Both manuals printed in black and white and coil bound was going to cost me 60 Canadian after tax. BUT they refuse to print the manual without the written consent of the author due to the copyright which can be found on page 5 of the manual. :rtfm:
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LOL… idiots! Also, $60 CAD? Isn’t that a bit expensive?
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Both manuals printed in black and white and coil bound was going to cost me 60 Canadian after tax. BUT they refuse to print the manual without the written consent of the author due to the copyright which can be found on page 5 of the manual. :rtfm:
LOL! Have RedDog or Darkman write a letter for you!
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LOL… idiots! Also, $60 CAD? Isn’t that a bit expensive?
I’d probably spend more on ink if I print them myself. But I get nice paper printed front and back, bound with a nice cover. Well I WAS going to get it.
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I’d probably spend more on ink if I print them myself. But I get nice paper printed front and back, bound with a nice cover. Well I WAS going to get it.
Probably. But I’m an advocate of self-refilling if you’re on an ink-jet printer… or printing them out yourself if you have a colored laser printer. How were they going to do the front/back cover?
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you got my statement by PM Hoogs
Hope that works for you
