Installing 4.33 Problem
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Me again! Just some advice on using torrents please. Would win zip or 7 zip work? I don’t care for Bittorrent as it just complicate a simple install. Thanks. Real Noobie here.
No. WinZip and 7zip are programs that unpack archived files, the have nothing to do with downloading anything.
Torrent link files are used in torrent programs like Bittorent or Utorrent for peer to peer downloading of programs over the internet.
C9
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It always amazes me how someone can know that they’re a noobie…. and then go their own way regarding getting the files and installing the game. No wonder they then have install problems!!
Kerfuffle, please download qBitTorrent and use that to download Base + U1, U2 Increment, and U3 Increment. Why torrent when you already have the files?? This just ensures you have a good, un-corrupted copy of the installers.
Use 7-Zip to unpack Base + U1, and then apply the U2 and U3 patches. Once done, you should end up with something that looks like this:
If correct, you can then go and run the Setup.exe located in the \Falcon_BMS_4.33_U1_Setup\Falcon BMS 4.33 U1 Setup folder. That should give you a nice, clean install of BMS 4.33.3. Hope that helps!
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Torrent’s DO NOT ensure you have good, un-corrupted files. Please don’t spread mis-information. Torrent downloading is a crap shoot, always has been and always will be.
What’s to say someone who downloads BMS or any other files via torrent doesn’t alter them and seed a bad file? Yes, I know there’s Check sums but still, if you’re new to torrent downloading, you’d have no idea what to look for.
C9
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@Cloud:
Torrent’s DO NOT ensure you have good, un-corrupted files. Please don’t spread mis-information. Torrent downloading is a crap shoot, always has been and always will be.
How so? And is a direct download a safer way? At least the torrent program checks the files before declaring it 100% complete and you can interrupt the download and resume at any time, and the torrent program STILL checks before declaring the download 100% complete. Edit your downloaded files, start up the torrent program, and it’ll get rid of your edit (as it doesn’t recognize it as original) and will re-download the missing parts. I don’t see direct downloads doing any of this.
@Cloud:
What’s to say someone who downloads BMS or any other files via torrent doesn’t alter them and seed a bad file? Yes, I know there’s Check sums but still, if you’re new to torrent downloading, you’d have no idea what to look for.
Er, because someone who downloads BMS via torrent, changes that file, and tries to seed it will have his “changed” copy fixed. Meaning he’ll download the “correct” bits first before the files are declared 100% complete and he can start seeding. You can’t seed a bad file, at least not on the original .torrent file –- and that’s why you get your .torrent files from the correct sites, in this case, the threads I linked above. Sounds like YOU are new to torrents yourself with those claims.
I look forward to your sources about your claims of torrents giving corrupted files and being a crap shoot. For obscure, un-popular torrents, sure. Base install currently has 53+ seeders, 76+ leechers, U2 has 34+/62+, and U3 has 25+/47+ so a good download should not be a problem.
A quick video on torrents (LOL @ uTorrent… why, uTorrent, why??):
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Do I dare invite Michael and his popcorn to this thread?
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Hi Ice,
For the record I sought out help in dowloading and installing before my original post and did not go off on my own. Overall I find the help on most forums to be a little confusing and cetrtainly contradictory for Noobies like me. Sorry to have amazed you so easily. Having said that I do thank you for attempt to help me along. -
The install and update procedure for BMS sure is unique, so it’s no wonder people get confused. MOST of us were at the start as well!!
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I read the threads carefully. However, I’m not that much of a noobie. I’ve always used Bittorrent to download BMS as directed (with this most recent install, 4.33 back in 2015 and, 4.32 before that). But, Bittorrent downloads take an awfully long time to finish - what with the seeding and all. Every time I use Bittorrent, I feel like someone out there in cyber space is hacking the crap out of my system. A bit (torrent) of healthy paranoia these days is sage advice. What I did notice though, was my files for pictures, data, F4Patch, etc. were all over my H: drive and not contained within the Falcon BMS 4.33 folder. I had to move all of these orphans back to where they belong.
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But, Bittorrent downloads take an awfully long time to finish - what with the seeding and all.
Depends on a few things, namely the number of Seeders and Leechers at any given time, and their combined upload speed…. and how many of those you are connected to, plus your own internet connection speed. Connecting to 10 seeds and 30 leechs is useless on a 2MB/s connection, but connecting to 1 seed and 2 leechs may be sufficient on a 200MB/s connecti
Every time I use Bittorrent, I feel like someone out there in cyber space is hacking the crap out of my system. A bit (torrent) of healthy paranoia these days is sage advice. What I did notice though, was my files for pictures, data, F4Patch, etc. were all over my H: drive and not contained within the Falcon BMS 4.33 folder. I had to move all of these orphans back to where they belong.
Not a clue what you’re talking about here…
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Mikemadmax there is no such thing as security when u r connected 2 the internet. Wether u use torrents or not.
Whatever has a lock has and a key…
Torrents were famous for spreading pirated sw and viruses. This left a negative reputation.
The p2p platform since then advanced and is used for legal reasons.
Example i want to pass u my personal work or share it… torrents are free and quick. Also its a trend and upscales your estime to others as u know how to when others dont.sent from my mi5 using Tapatalk
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ICE:
I was just talking out my butt. Trying to introduce some levity to a frustrating problem - keeping in mind that a few weeks ago my system, BMS and, DCS was working with no problems.
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ARTY:
Thanks for your insight, as well as your link to your Hot List. I reviewed a few of them and they are a treasure trove I will covet.
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Just a quick note from an ultra rookie on the installing of the game from 4.33 U1 to U2 and U3. Like Kerfuffle I had a few difficulties in doing the incremental updates into the U1 full install, same issues. Seems to be if you download the file complete from the E HAF site the set up folder seems to come without a set up file which is needed for U2 + 3. I dont know how but the setup file is missing, checked my folders and files and compared with You tube install videos. Soon as I did the Torrent download for full install U1 the file appeared and have been able to do U2 + 3 as well no problem. Dont know if someone higher up the chain of command needs to give this a once over? If not I’ll get back in my box
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Strange as most ehaf members used the ehaf link.
Thanx for the heads up we will look at it.sent from my mi5 using Tapatalk
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Really weird problems as I used the e-haf links to download both U1 installer and U2 incremental.
Went through smoothly within minutes. Neither missing nor corrupted files. By the way does anyone know if there will be a U3 link soon?I used to use torrent software a lot in my earlier days but now I dont feel like I want to use the software anymore
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Thanks Arty, don’t want to upset the apple cart too much as a Rookie, just letting the system know that at least two of us have had exactly the same issue. If you need any information then please let me know.
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@ZeeMan90, just curious, was that the install complete with U1? It may have been my mistake but thought I should mention it as I had exactly the same issue. Are you BAOR?
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It was complete. I started it to make sure everything was up and running. As it was I made sure to install U2 next.
No, I am not BOAR, but I life very close to them Less than a klick from Barker Barracks^^
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@ZeeMan, OK, must be a very minor issue then. Hope I have not caused any problems. I used to be in Soest:)
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I was just talking out my butt. Trying to introduce some levity to a frustrating problem - keeping in mind that a few weeks ago my system, BMS and, DCS was working with no problems.
Might be best to nuke that thing from orbit and start again….
Just a quick note from an ultra rookie on the installing of the game from 4.33 U1 to U2 and U3. Like Kerfuffle I had a few difficulties in doing the incremental updates into the U1 full install, same issues. Seems to be if you download the file complete from the E HAF site the set up folder seems to come without a set up file which is needed for U2 + 3. I dont know how but the setup file is missing, checked my folders and files and compared with You tube install videos. Soon as I did the Torrent download for full install U1 the file appeared and have been able to do U2 + 3 as well no problem. Dont know if someone higher up the chain of command needs to give this a once over? If not I’ll get back in my box
Another reason to use the torrent for downloading. The HAF link may have been valid, but it may have been corrupted or your download may have paused or got interrupted and you ended up with a “broken” download. Using a torrent, you won’t get this issue as the whole thing is checked before being declared complete. If you continue to seed afterwards, the whole thing is checked again at the start of the torrent program… if anything has changed, you will need to have your copy “fixed” before you can seed it, again guaranteeing that your copy is complete and identical to all other “complete” copies of the installer.
As for installing BMS, you don’t have to install U1, then U2, then U3. You can download U1/U2/U3, apply the U2 and U3 patches, then install BMS straight as a U3 version.