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    • jagfour
      jagfour last edited by

      Does Falcon BMS support multiple monitors?

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      • Arty
        Arty last edited by

        yes…

        HOT LISTalt text

        System Specs:

        i7-2600K @ 4.8 Ghz WaterCooled / 16GB Ram. 128GB SSD/1TB HDD / GTX980Ti 6GB DDR5 / HOTAS COUGAR. TrackIR 4 / 3x24" Mon. & SoftTH. (res:5760x1200) / Cougar MFD's / Wheel Pedals / Win 10 64 bit.

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        • Shadow
          Shadow @Arty last edited by

          I hate longwinded answers, Arty one less period key press next time 🙂

          PS: I think its not so much a matter of “support” for muilty monitors but the avaliabilty of usefull display resolutions.

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          • ASharpe
            ASharpe last edited by

            @jagfour:

            Does Falcon BMS support multiple monitors?

            I am running 3 x 24" LCD monitors for my main display and 2 x 3.5" TFT Displays for my MFDs right now, for a total of five.

            I hate to recommend ATI cards to anyone, I have had more trouble with ATI cards and software then nVidia, but the ATI software makes it much easier to span across multiple screens for the main display.

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            • Kuhprah
              Kuhprah @ASharpe last edited by

              It runs perfect, even mith much more Screens. But 3 Screens for the main Screen works fine. and Yes, if you are honest there you drive best with AMD Cards… okay, nvidia also can do it, but to be honest, you safe much Trouble and time by using AMD crads… 😄

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              • MaxWaldorf
                MaxWaldorf @Kuhprah last edited by

                Or…

                You could go for this 🙂

                http://www.oculusvr.com/

                Cheers

                Benchmarksims Developer - Falcon Lounge Founder

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                • jskibo
                  jskibo last edited by

                  @jagfour:

                  Does Falcon BMS support multiple monitors?

                  Works just great……Even on Nvidia 🙂

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                  • Arty
                    Arty @MaxWaldorf last edited by

                    @MaxWaldorf:

                    Or…

                    You could go for this 🙂

                    http://www.oculusvr.com/

                    Cheers

                    And when raising it a bit to do something with keyb or mouse or look at a datacard or notes the view will look to the sky…

                    HOT LISTalt text

                    System Specs:

                    i7-2600K @ 4.8 Ghz WaterCooled / 16GB Ram. 128GB SSD/1TB HDD / GTX980Ti 6GB DDR5 / HOTAS COUGAR. TrackIR 4 / 3x24" Mon. & SoftTH. (res:5760x1200) / Cougar MFD's / Wheel Pedals / Win 10 64 bit.

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                    • ASharpe
                      ASharpe @jskibo last edited by

                      @jskibo:

                      Works just great……Even on Nvidia 🙂

                      How are you running 4 screens on Nivida? Are those split between multiple cards? I used to run 3 x PCI-E nVidia cards to support six monitors, but there was a perceptible lag on the third screen for my main span, and when I was turning you could clearly see the horizons were out of alignment.

                      It wasn’t until I switched to an AMD card (which are the only ones that support six monitors natively on a single GPU) that I have not had that rather pronounced affect.

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                      • jskibo
                        jskibo @ASharpe last edited by

                        @ASharpe:

                        How are you running 4 screens on Nivida? Are those split between multiple cards? I used to run 3 x PCI-E nVidia cards to support six monitors, but there was a perceptible lag on the third screen for my main span, and when I was turning you could clearly see the horizons were out of alignment.

                        It wasn’t until I switched to an AMD card (which are the only ones that support six monitors natively on a single GPU) that I have not had that rather pronounced affect.

                        Anything GTX660ti and above will run 4 monitors, three for surround and a 4th, though I had to run it in windowed mode. Will drop the 4th monitor to another box shortly to avoid that

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                        • ujmolter
                          ujmolter @jskibo last edited by

                          I am running 4 monitors. 3-22" and 1-18.5" with a MSI R7850 Twin Frozer/2GB GDDR5 with Eyefinity with no problems.

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                          • k s
                            k s @ujmolter last edited by

                            @ujmolter:

                            I am running 4 monitors. 3-22" and 1-18.5" with a MSI R7850 Twin Frozer/2GB GDDR5 with Eyefinity with no problems.

                            http://s20.postimg.org/rz9acpg65/IMG_2664.jpg

                            http://s20.postimg.org/qvp60qvj1/IMG_2666.jpg

                            http://s20.postimg.org/jwfpf4kyl/IMG_2667.jpg

                            http://s20.postimg.org/uuqyxb9jx/IMG_2668.jpg

                            Amaxing pit. Any tips and hint how you manage to build such a beauty ?

                            Cheers

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                            • ujmolter
                              ujmolter @k s last edited by

                              @k:

                              Amaxing pit. Any tips and hint how you manage to build such a beauty ?

                              Cheers

                              Thanks for the complement!

                              Well, I started off with the mindset that my pit was going to be designed with only functionality in mind. I was not trying to achieve what a lot of those guys do over at Viperpits which is complete accuracy. I am a RL pilot and have to have hands on controls to make it more enjoyable for me. Mouse clicking and keyboard manipulation is something I wanted to get away from.

                              My first task was to get the visuals down and then work on a surrounding function pit. I toyed around with the idea of multiple TFT screens for screen extraction but ended up with the 18" monitor behind the up front panel. The only other thing that I may consider in the area of visuals is a small LCD for the analog gauges but I don’t use them enough right now to justify the cost. I just wanted to stay simple enough to be cost effective allowing me to have a little realism while flying.

                              The first thing I built was the ACES seat. It was a prefab seat using MDF. All of my pit is made of MDF.

                              This is what I started off with:

                              I switched to the three monitors (BENQ 22")

                              I then built temporary consoles for my HOTAS and added a 4th monitor. It was an old 15" I had till I figured out what I wanted to use for the Upfront panel.

                              I started constructing a real size panel out of foam board (which would just appear as real panel) without any of the 3-D depth. Just flat to mimic the look of the panel and started to look for a monitor that would closely fit the panel and allow for the close approximate position of the extracted gauges. I found the 18" I-INC monitor. The foam panel allowed me to adjust the look and size cheaply to get my final measurements to fit the monitor. This is the foam panel. Now with the task of making a UFP, I could not figure out how I was going to create a ICP. Then I thought about a Numeric pad. Worked like a champ as a temp ICP.

                              Most of the other pit construction was simple woodworking. I met a guy name Propnut and the guy has great manufacturing skills and he built my ICP. From scratch. Here is a picture with Propnut’s prototype ICP and as you can see I went to mounting all my monitors against the wall and you can see my HOTAS on my temp consoles.

                              Here is the start of my console construction. I used foam board panels to get the measurements right for when I build my Plexiglas panels.

                              Here is a picture of my MK II ICP from Propnut’s final production. And a look at the right temp console.

                              From here, I continued to construct and finish my consoles. The panels were constructed from plexiglas and I used desktopaviator.com for my pulse generators and various accessories. I currently have 5 generators installed to operate the switches for full function without the use of the mouse or keyboard. Here is a pulse generator mounted inside one of the consoles.

                              There is much more but that is kind of the “just” of what I have done to have a functional pit without an enormous cost. I would be glad to go into more detail. Just PM me with any questions. The process to this point took just under a year of on and off work. Disregard the dates on the pictures, they are not correct.

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                              • Mogas
                                Mogas @ujmolter last edited by

                                Nice pit:mrgreen:

                                Where did you get the seat cushion from, looks very comfortable…

                                Mogas……

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                                • ujmolter
                                  ujmolter @Mogas last edited by

                                  Thanks. Pit is still a work in progress. Not shown in the last pictures posted but I made the seat back cushion to match the bottom. You can barely see it in the pictures at the beginning of this thread. A buddy of mine that flew the C-17 was issued the bottom cushion when he was active duty. He no longer used it so he gave it to me. I was going to order the matching seat back which zipped to the bottom cushion but the seat back was nearly $300.00 US. The one I made came to about $40.00 US.

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                                  • FalconID
                                    FalconID @ujmolter last edited by

                                    Its a Simple, but its Great project….

                                    Cheers

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                                    • jagfour
                                      jagfour @FalconID last edited by

                                      Geez. Great answers guys.
                                      I play a lot of iracing and some guys go mad (or am I jealous) with their racing pits. But that Falcon pit is just awesome.

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                                      • TKorho
                                        TKorho @jagfour last edited by

                                        Back on topic:
                                        Technically Falcon4 BMS does NOT support multiple screens for visuals. It allows one view with very wide format, and the graphics hardware then splits it for several desktops.

                                        If you consider MFD extraction as multiple screens, then that part BMS does comply with. And then you can use MFDE for other instruments extraction.

                                        But only one 3D view so far. Doesn’t stop you from making a great pit.

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                                        • ujmolter
                                          ujmolter @jagfour last edited by

                                          @jagfour:

                                          But that Falcon pit is just awesome.

                                          Thank!

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                                          • EV135C_Mustang
                                            EV135C_Mustang @ujmolter last edited by

                                            Where did you get the buttons for the ICP, the switches and Knobs for the consoles from?

                                            Awsome Pit BTW

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