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      Showboat_mass last edited by

      Had a OCA strike in the Balkans last night with my squadron and it didn’t go to well. As we engaged we found that there were SA6s stationed there even though recon didn’t show any units in the area, the fog of war. My issue was that once the SA6s started to attack us my RWR did not show them. Other pilots did have a warning like my wingman but not me. Once my wingman was shot down that was I could see them on RWR. Is this normal? I was also hosting the flight.

      Thanks

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        -Vandal- last edited by

        If you do a ramp start you do have to follow the steps in Red Dog’s manual about powering it up or it won’t work. But you should notice long before then whether or not its on. Also, I have noticed that it appeared not to be working on a Taxi and-or Runway before in the F15E once or twice out of hundreds of flights and the [Alt] + [Num 0] default keybinding woke it up. BUT it might have been working I just didn’t hear any chirping right away so I hit the TWA Power Tog keybind. Those are the only times I’ve noticed RWR problems (1) not starting it up, and (2) the F15E glitch that

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          Fox3TwoShip @-Vandal- last edited by

          Your wingman was being engaged first. An SA-6 can track you optically. Sounds pretty normal to me.

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            ZeeMan90 @Fox3TwoShip last edited by

            Some Surface to Air defence systems will not emit radar emissions. So you basically will not get a radar warning when said SA is fired upon you.
            The SA10 is such a platform. Had a situation where I got saved by an SA2 launch. It triggered the warning and I was able to evade both SA10 and SA2 😄

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              Raffson @ZeeMan90 last edited by

              @ZeeMan90:

              Some Surface to Air defence systems will not emit radar emissions. So you basically will not get a radar warning when said SA is fired upon you.
              The SA10 is such a platform.

              Not quite correct… SA-10 does in fact have soft-launch capability which is what you’re describing… Though it still emits radar waves which can be picked up by the HTS… If you see the 10 turning red on the HAD, you can be 99% sure that it fired on you… I also noticed that if you’re close enough to the SA-10, you will get a missile launch warning…

              I think what Snowboat_mass is experiencing is simply a narrow radar beam which is only picked up by the person targeted… I’ve had multiple occasions where I (as a host) would pick up an SAM on RWR while my wingman who’s flying in close formation was not picking it up & vice versa… That’s why you should always call out “MUD (optional SPIKE if you’re getting locked up) SA-X Y-O’CLOCK” (with X being the type & Y being the directing), waiting for a response that either goes like “ROGER”, indicating your wingman sees the same, or “NAKED”, indicating your wingman doesn’t see it on his RWR… Once you’re being fired upon you should call it out, intra-flight it will suffice to simply say “DEFENDING X”, where X can be anything going from a SAM up to a type of enemy aircraft… If you’d be calling it out to inter-flight you would go all the way saying “ENGAGED DEFENSIVE X, BULLSEYE YYY Z MILES”, again X is type ranging from SAM to aircraft, YYY is the direction & Z is your distance…
              You might’ve known all of this already though I thought I’d state it for consistency & while it might sound overdone, it definitely increases situational awareness which is what it’s all about :mrgreen:

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                Dee-Jay @Raffson last edited by

                Radar beam is directional and sometimes, narrow enought to paint only one a/c.

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                  Stevie Banned last edited by

                  …in which case, your wingman can also shadow you. If BMS models…

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