Hi,
I’ve upgraded our squadron server to 4.37.7 today.
Unfortunately, BMS crashes every time I try to lounch it to the desktop.
I went through the new ‘Falcon BMS.ini’ and set everything that is new and could affect the server to ‘0’. -> no change.
I tried to set Microsoft WER according to the instructions in this part of the forum, no success. I can’t get a dump in the specified folder.
Here is the link to the crash log provided directly by BMS.
https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/N2vnpeXOTpWAN-Vz7ne2zg

Regards Alpha

Our squadron tested the Balkan Theatre yesterday. We wanted to prepare for an event.
Mission: Refuelling at night from Gioia del Colle airfield.
In the process, we noticed the following:

• There are lit areas on the pre-launch line, the cockpit is lit but there are no light sources visible. (no screenshot available)
• There is no taxiway or runway lighting but there is an approach strobe and the PAPI lights.
  
  
• The visibility of the aircraft lights is poor. Anyone who has flown at night knows that even on dark nights the aircraft lights can be seen for many miles.
  

Edit: wrong theater specified

@Baptiste-Teixeira The F-16’s of Belgium, Netherlands and Danmark were unable to shoot AIM-7 at that time…

@tiag said in some observed mistakes in the redesigned F-15C:

Two possibilities here:

1. Something is broken on your install again. Very unlikely since you reinstalled.
   I think so too.
2. Your keybind is not only for the gear but also to the declutter HUD?
   It happens only if I use “takeoff runway”. When I use “takeoff ramp” F-15C works as it should do.
   Did you check in AL for the F-15 if the keybind for your gear retract only does that?
   Yes I did. No failures observed.

View to the NCI

@jayb
Sorry, it was not the take off time, it was the taxy time given by ground.

I installed the theatre yesterday and flew a short round.
I really liked the modelling of the landscape, it looks more realistic than in Korea and Balkans.
The airfields are kept very simple and do not correspond to reality (at least on the territory of the GDR). There was a much better version of this with Tomcatz Baltic Sea Theatre, which unfortunately was not developed further.
It would also make sense to divide the airfields on the territory of the GDR into NVA and Soviet air forces. The same would be better on NATO territory (US Airforce staging areas).
That would bring more realism to the scenery.

I know that the F-15C is far from being at the stage of development where it is almost perfect.
I have noticed several things recently after the release of 4.37.3 that I think need to be improved.

• If you perform a ramp start, the automatic retraction of the flaps does not work. However, it does work if you use “take-off runway”.
  
• No pitch ladder appears after a start via “take-off runway”.
  
• If you switch to the AA mode (ADI, which is automatically switched on after the ramp start, switched off), you will not get a display of g-force and Mach number.
  
• There are shadow numbers behind the fuel flow digits. It is sometime difficult to read the numbers.
  

I’m not sure if anybody found same problems which are not reported yet.

Prot

Sorry for many edits. I had to found out how to link pictures to the forum.

@terminus
Hi, I tested it yesterday on my android tablet and the first approach is promising. Thanks for that.
What I think could be improved is the presentation of the briefing. What BMS “spits out” is not really helpful during the flight. I would like to see a representation like the one used in Falcas’ WDP. Properly structured and modelled on the real “lineup and coordination cards”.
Thanks in advance, Prot

Many thanks for providing the patch for the Balkan theatre.
It would be even better if one had the option to verify the downloaded file with a checksum after downloading (directly or via torrent).
Thanks Prot

When starting up the F-15C, the waypoints and routes already appear in the MPCD, although no data has yet been loaded from the DTC.
WIP, bug or intention?

Perhaps I have found the solution to the puzzle.
When I am preparing to fly my aircraft in 2D, I load the data in the link16 page of the DTC via L16 plan. Before I press this button, the link16 data from the last flight are in the DTC.
If as in the case described I change as a member to another flight, I would like to have the flight plan data of this flight on the DTC.
I stay in my aircraft, select the other flight in the missions display without to click an AC and press save in the DTC.
I then have the flight plan from the other flight in my DTC and my STN is displayed. Perhaps something is running differently in the background, so that other STNs are loaded into the DTC?
I have just tested again:
2D DTC called up, pressed CLEAR, there were no STNs in the DTC display. In the aircraft I opened the Flight data page in the MPCD, there was no data of the buddies in it, as in the 2D DTC. In the OWN DATA page, however, there was the STN intended for me, although 00000 was saved in the DTC.

@tiag said in 4.37.7 strange behaviour link 16 part II:

@Alpha

Hi Alpha,

Hard to understand what are you doing.
I have the impression you guys messed up big time the DTC settings and you were using same STNs. You write that

“I then set my own STN to FM3 (which was not so easy, as the OWN DATA page had the wrong STN, no idea where it came from)”

which tells me you set your DTC wrong.

No, I was loading the Link16 datas in data cartridge in 2D.

Second, the fact that the update was not always showing the F-16 FL with thh 65571 tells two of you were using the same TN or this guy was too far away(?) or he was not sync with the net?

This guy (F-16 #1) has not changed his STN. We were also never more than 40NM apart. He was on the net the whole time.

@tiag
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Sorry, I didn’t see your last picture. Yes, that’s how it should look. But what is written below remains valid.
Alpha

I’ll try to explain another aspect of the malfunction of Link16 in the F-15 here:

We (pilots of our squadron) wanted to fly a DCA mission as MFFO.
Two F-16s and two F-15s were to man a FAOR.
Originally, 4 F-16s were planned for one FAOR and 2 F-15s for another FAOR in this TE. But the cancellation of two pilots forced us to come up with an alternative variant.
To improve the overview for all pilots, we wanted to display a flight in Link16.
After all pilots had synchronised the Link-16 network, I tried to adjust the STN in the F-15 so that all 4 aircraft are displayed according to their position.
These are the STNs assigned in the TE by BMS.
https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/kVt6eo-o_hRhV3hmvMXdpw
https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/7TuTNdAyVLNIuP0lX9pSJw

I tried to enter the STN in the SIT page of the MPCD during the flight as we had organised ourselves.

1st problem: The STN of the first F-16 did not appear on the display, no matter how often I pressed the ‘update list’ button.
I then set my own STN to FM3 (which was not so easy, as the OWN DATA page had the wrong STN, no idea where it came from)
and set the 2nd F-16 to FM2.

I had sporadically tried to display the STN 65571 again.
https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/UL0Rxvj2riL_-62qVKaGfQ
This worked after my No. 2 STN 46672 (AI) was shot down, but 2 times.
https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/rS_8-F-OJIoNLEVs6QwMEA
The attempted takeover of the STN of the 1st F-16 then led to two entries on top of each other.
https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/YlP8ylherOutw2w2dSZBlw
Only the rewriting of my own STN in position 3 remedied the situation.
I think that’s not how link16 works in reality.

@Korbi said in Interesting experience::

@Seifer The TE is at daytime

good point, Korbi

@Seifer
I was sitting in a F-15C. I had no chance to switch anything on because I was unable to see anything in the pit. The NVG worked, but nothing was visible due to the complete lack of light.

I had planned a TE in which I wanted to have the thickest possible a cloud layer for IMC flights. With the “normal” weather from BMS is this no longer possible due to the modified weather engine. I looked for a real weather (which is very time-consuming) and downloaded and converted it with F4Wx.
I built TE and tried it out on my PC, everything worked. Then I uploaded the finished TE to our squadron server. The flight was supposed to take place today, but what was it? No complete textures visible! I made a short recording with Bandycam:

https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/N2vnpeXOTpWAN-Vz7ne2zg

What was the reason that almost everything was black?
Update 7?
Something not installed correctly?
New feature?
I tested a TE in the Korea theatre, everything was normal. I tested another TE in the Balkans, everything was normal and I suspected that it might have something to do with the weather. And right, I had forgotten to upload the weather from F4Wx to the server and then ‘link’ it to the TE. Once I had done that, there was no longer a visual problem.
I’ve written the whole thing down in case someone gets into a similar situation so that he can find a solution here.

Alpha
Edith: missing word added

I solved the problem by means of try and error. BMS accepts the audio output via remote desktop as audio hardware.

@Seifer
Yes, that will be the problem. This has been the case for years if you have a server running off-site in a data centre. I have always used ‘Virtual Audio Cable’ as a workaround. This worked until I installed 4.37.7. I would always get an error message, but I could click away. Now Virtual Audio Cable can’t be uninstalled, and a different version from a different developer doesn’t change the crash.
It’s about time that the requirement to use an audio device that is not needed in this context was removed from the BMS code.

Hi,
I’ve upgraded our squadron server to 4.37.7 today.
Unfortunately, BMS crashes every time I try to lounch it to the desktop.
I went through the new ‘Falcon BMS.ini’ and set everything that is new and could affect the server to ‘0’. -> no change.
I tried to set Microsoft WER according to the instructions in this part of the forum, no success. I can’t get a dump in the specified folder.
Here is the link to the crash log provided directly by BMS.
https://c.web.de/@357430141938303499/N2vnpeXOTpWAN-Vz7ne2zg

Regards Alpha