@IOne If you want that hot young blonde that laughs at all your jokes and is easy on the eyes, then BMS isn’t for you. However, you seem to have realised that the older lady, the one with a few wrinkles and looks rather plain, that lady can make YOU laugh and makes you learn new skills and test your character each time you go out…

When I first came to BMS after years in Lock On/Flaming Cliffs/A-10C, I miss the detail and beauty of the airfields, the grass growing between the pavement slabs, the town, the trees, flying under bridges… As soon as I had more skill in the jet though, eye candy mattered less and less. Start ups were busy affairs getting the jet set up for the mission. En route, I was busy checking to see if I can make the next waypoint in time or if I was behind. Do I have enough gas if I engage the burner for a bit to catch up? New pop up target, are they a threat? Where did they come from? Are they heading my way? Air cover just flew overhead, I need to fence in soon… then everything is a blur as I get tunnel vision completing my mission. One pass, haul ass. I hope I remembered to record this flight, that run would be awesome to watch in TacView! Did my wingie make it out or do I have to babysit his son for the next 30 years? Talk to me Goose! Am I far enough from the target area to climb to a safe altitude?

Maybe on egress, there’s some time to admire the scenery? No. At least not for very long. Watch the fuel state. Do I need to hit the tanker? Where is the tanker? checks kneepad for info Dial in the tanker TACAN and see how far away I am. If I fly for best endurance, how much gas do I have at homeplate? Has my wingie joined up yet? What’s his fuel state? Awww… fuckitsonsabitches, new popup from that airbase to the west… seems like they’re heading for me. Yeah, they’re hot. Angry too! I should’ve stayed in bed this morning! Wait, there’s some targets on my nose… FRIENDLIES!! Are they flying to intercept my chasers? If I turn towards them, that’ll close the gap quicker and hopefully, they’ll scare the guys off my tail… but this heading means I’ll need to tank up or I’ll be gliding the last few miles to base and need to be towed off the runway!

You get the idea…

Am I missing something here? His account says he’s been a member since 2011 and age 59. A little too old to be having a little tantrum this way and not having a sense of humour. Should also be wise enough to give details when asking for help…

As a returning Falcon player, it’s amazing to see how the community has helped me out with my PICNIC problems with patience and clear instructions. You guys are definitely helping me to fully enjoy BMS!

Um, LOL, where is he to go? DCS? Where they can ban you for stuff you say on other forums? Where missiles and AI have been broken for at least a decade now? Where certain mods (not even devs! haha!) have god-like egos and can ban you if you don’t do a bug report right?

Yeah, how dare you BMS devs for not fixing so many serious bugs! And you do this on your free time? Maybe you should all quit your jobs and so that you have more free time and maybe you can fix more bugs! ROFLMAO!

If I meet any BMS dev IRL, a beer and dinner is on me!
(obligatory “no homo bro!”)

@DarkGable said in Help with 4.37:

I was wondering if anyone out there can help me. I have a great computer but I just can’t get the settings right to fully enjoy BMS. Is there anyone out there who can help me with this? Thanks

If you give me a copy of 4.37, I’ll figure out what your problem is and make sure you get the most out of BMS!

All joking aside, you’ll need to list you specs and what performance you’re getting and what exactly your issues are before anyone can give any constructive help.

I’m just curious about the disconnect here and I wonder if you see it.

You want to be able to add fuel while in flight but air refuelling like real pilots do demands a lot of time and skill (but it’s a training mission? like those things you spend time on to develop your skill?) and unlimited fuel is not realistic… but magically adding a few thousand pounds of fuel is?

You want to hand-wave away fuel management but you still realise that fuel management is a critical task. So why ask for a magic-refuel option? You have a mission to do, you have 4,000lbs of fuel, go train fuel management and accomplish your mission! Seems like there’s no need for a magic-refuel option!

As for re-arming the jet, not sure if they do that in real life unless in extreme circumstances and even so, I would wager it takes a good amount of time, maybe 30 minutes at the quickest and this is after you’ve parked your aircraft. Taxi to/from the hotpit re-arm area not included.

If you just want to keep circling the KOTAR range dropping bombs and refining your technique, then unlimited ammo is there for that. Pair that with unlimited fuel and you can spend as long as you want over the range.

@Ironman3 said in Training features request:

These may seem arcade features to your eyes but people who want to be trained or train effectively can take advantage.

While I fully agree that some arcade features can help with training, I would think that proper training would be to go out, do a couple of passes, then exit the sim and watch the ACMI and debrief, learn from it, then use that learning to structure the next exercise. In that scenario, unlimited fuel and ammo is not necessary.

I am curious how you guys are running your training.

Aaaaanddd…

Once again, my PC decides it wants to make me look like a fool… downloading Eartrumpet now. I guess I don’t mind looking silly if I get what I’m looking for.

EDIT: AAAAAAAaaaaannnnnndddd… it works!!

Just downloaded it, started it up, and done. I guess whatever settings I had set previously was “correct” but Windows just wasn’t playing nice. Eartrumpet makes it work as intended. Very cool! I even tried playing something on YouTube which played over the TV speakers at the same time doing a flight in BMS which played in my headset! Suhhhh-weeeeeetttt!!!

Thanks @Fearripper96 !!!

@Aragorn I think he means the opposite of yes

@white_fang qbittorrent user here. No issues. Just make sure you get the .torrent file from this website. Getting that from elsewhere = no guarantees it’s legit or safe.

@Volksfuersorge said in Direct download link 4.36:

Torrent=bad feeling for me (sorry).

But 99.99999% of BMS users use the torrent and has been the dev’s way of initial distribution since… forever.
If torrents were an issue, then devs won’t use it and/or authorise direct links ASAP.
@SemlerPDX has also offered a non-torrent option if you had PM’d him so I’m not sure what the continued issue is??

@Quasi_Stellar So BMS became Open Falcon then back to BMS? Interesting, I definitely missed that part! Are we sure BMS 4.32 released in 2011?? That must be wrong, I could’ve sworn it was just last Tuesday! Thanks for the link!

@weepop I’ve been copy-pasting -Ice’s profile to my own custom setup for the last 2 or 3 releases, with 2 editors open.

@MaxWaldorf said in New feature or did i mess something up:

there is jet wash in BMS…

I seem to remember this being the case but now unclear whether it was BMS or DCS. My current AAR practice, I don’t seem to notice the jetwash though. Am I doing something wrong?

@white_fang qbittorrent user here. No issues. Just make sure you get the .torrent file from this website. Getting that from elsewhere = no guarantees it’s legit or safe.

@Sparks I just use Notepad++ and do it manually

@airtex2019 said in Training features request:

In (b) the instructor says: “you’ve burned too much fuel at this point… deducting 10 points. now let’s add some fuel, and continue the lesson”

B makes so much sense! Is this what they’re actually doing though? Because if so, then that explanation just nails it, but then why are you the one saying it and not them? But yes, if they do B, then fair enough.

@Morgan @danaos75 @Ironman3
Thanks for the insight. I’ll just leave it at that.

Have a nice day and all the best with your missions!

@Morgan said in Training features request:

No, i don’t miss nothing my friend. I am just expressing a question

So I am not sure why you are asking that question then as I have clearly asked him the reason for this odd request and asked how one option (unlimited fuel) is not acceptable. As I said, claiming realism but then asking for a magic refuel option is a disconnect.

@Morgan said in Training features request:

Has it occurred to you that the time I can devote to the sim may be limited? or we have not put an AAP flight?

So why not focus on what your main objective is? Why do T/O - rejoin - navigate - [main objective] - rejoin - land when you can probably do 2 or 3 rounds of that [main objective] if you start a TE in mid-air a few nm from the fence-in point? Especially if you have limited time, then you are not wasting time on things that you are not focusing on, such as the other phases of flight. Starting in mid-air also eliminates the bad fuel management problem.

Like if a buddy and I want to practice A-A engagements and doing offensive/defensive/neutral starts, we can frag a flight where we do everything from startup to shutdown if we have the time to spare or, as more often is the case, we’ll just skip all of that and fly a dogfight or custom TE.

@Gryfinoxx Epic work!

@Morgan said in Training features request:

I really don’t understand how a simple request results in how he trains a squadron.
You think after 10 years that he don’t knows about unlimited fuel and unlimited weapons or flights in the frag?
Why don’t you think out of a box and try to understant or ask him the reason for these requests?

Sorry, did you miss all the previous discussion and questions?

@Morgan said in Training features request:

In the above example the main purpose of the training flight is the (4)
Now let’s say that the trainee do bad fuel managment and fuels do not reach him for 3 passes in the target and for LAND.
We will miss the main purpose of the flight.
Or for reload: 3 not good pass and we want one more for better results
So: If i use unlimited fuel i think that the trainee will not managment fuels, from the other case i can give him a second chance.
If i use unlimited weapons and the trainee is doing well, the weight of the aircraft will not change and on the landing it will be heavy.
Again i say it is a training flight and the main purpose is the pop up attacks.
I don’t think that this request is insane, for TRAINING purpose

Sure, and I can see the point there. For training purpose, why not frag a tanker near your range? If the trainee does bad fuel management, then get him to hit the tanker. That’s even more training for him, pointing out how he did bad fuel management and getting him to polish his AAR skills. Might even practice how to locate the tanker and plan a rejoin.

Or if it is a training flight and the main purpose is the pop up attacks, then why not start on a hot jet, burner all the way to the range, do your practice attacks, then quit the mission? In the time you save for startup, enroute, egress, and landing, you can probably do another training session. The main purpose is practicing an attack, who cares about fuel states and joker/bingo?

As for unlimited ammo, I could’ve sworn Falcon had this. Maybe it was Allied Force? But I see your point on not losing weight and not being able to appreciate the difference in aircraft performance.

@Morgan said in Training features request:

I hope you got your answer

I’ve got an answer. Thanks for your insight! Much appreciated!

@kodi said in Training features request:

Atlas in my wild guess I believe you 've approached this post with denial and tunnel vision since the begining.
Otherwise you would have undestood that the 2 bullet points in my post for case 1 are complimenting each other.

On the contrary, I am curious as to your unique situation. I admit my experience is limited so I acknowledge that this is perhaps a scenario I have not understood properly, so I appreciate you taking the time to explain. So perhaps not tunnel vision and denial but rather lack of experience.

@kodi said in Training features request:

I wrote that with unlimited fuel the VUL& TOT have no meanining, I am pretty sure the reason is clear and has definitelly nothing to do with mission planning.

Of course I agree that with unlimited fuel, VUL and TOT have no meaning. But how is unlimited fuel different from being able to magically inject fuel on demand? How does one take away meaning but the other preserve meaning?

@kodi said in Training features request:

Earlier I mentioned to you that for case 1 this function is to “enable/simulate” QRA (Scramble) aircraft without having the players either to wait in a cold plane on the ground for 30-45’, or, exiting the 3d to get the QRA jets.

Maybe I’ve not understood how you’re implementing this scenario then. Can you give a better picture?

@kodi said in Training features request:

So in your opinion, a person from trainee pilot to a wing commander is not allowed to make an error?

Of course not. But as I previously said, make them pay for the error in a realistic fashion since you mention realism. Land at an alternate airbase, go hit up the tanker, fly conservatively, etc etc. Or magically inject fuel into the tanks, but then don’t say this is realism

@kodi said in Training features request:
This link has a list of accidents happened in RL by RL pilots where they were mostly trained beyond AdT ,and yet, they made the error.

So where is the article that says they magically got fuel in their tanks? Errors happen. Being able to deal with it is a key to being a good pilot.

@kodi said in Training features request:

You made all you arguments based on the AAR, I am confident that once you understand why we don’t want to use the tanker it will be easier to grasp the reason why Ironman asked for this “cheat”.

Having the option to refill the aircraft “magically” midair at a preset value of 4-5K lbs, in case of somebody’s error, will allow my flight objectives to be completed rather than postponed for a next flight.

I can somewhat see how the cheat will help, still not 100% clear on it. But the disconnect is still there. You guys claim realism and putting hours in making a good mission and training and flying with guys with lots of hours, but at the same breath ask for magic gas. Realism means if someone makes an error, flight objectives will not be met or will have to be met some other way and most of my most memorable flights have been these types of flights. Heck, I remember a failed flight escorting a wingman back home and keeping bad guys off him more clearly than a successful mission that went smoothly.

Once again, I’d like to say absolutely nothing wrong with how you guys fly! Once again, if you guys have big smiles at the end of the day, who cares if you used unlimited fuel or not? I’m just here asking questions due to my own curiosity about the logic disconnect and hope to learn from it. Not judging anyone at all and I really appreciate the examples!

@Fish44 said in When does BMS read inputs from controllers?:

Then I suggest get an understanding of

• momentary switches/buttons
• 2 and 3 position switches.
• latched switches
• difference between keyboard and DX inputs,
• callback types, fixed and toggle.
• analog dials,
• digital dials (encoder based)

I do have a little idea of what they are. The WH throttle has these varied switches and I’ve purchased a button box from someone on Facebook that has dials and rotaries. Was there anything in particular you wanted to point out? I’m just starting out on these so I really don’t know what I don’t know yet so any direct advice is greatly appreciated.

I have most callbacks mapped to keyboard because of Helios. I have also mapped a lot of stuff via DX input in the .key file, like my EAC switch (on-off) being mapped to the AAR open/close switch thanks to the press/release feature (technical manual 10.8.2). The button box is mapped via DX input in the .key file too.