No matter what Throttle I use (virpil or orion 2 f15) and even the joystick (Orion 2 f16ex) the key bind for this action is shown as mapped in the config screen, but in game, nothing happens.

These functions work just fine in the f16 side of things.

Simapp pro is closed. So, I ruled that out.

@Xeno said in VR fullscreen bug - zoomed world outside cockpit.:

@Blackhawk163 Could here be bug in Pimax Software? I remember Mover complained about his headset doing funky things while he was playing iRacing. Fullsceen issue affects whole session in 3D world, from very start , untill exit.

Whelp I switched it to have it run under steam using Pimax XR 0.4.4 and no crashes. I’ll bite the bullet and upgrade the actual pimax software (currently on 1.36.01.01) and see if there’s any difference. Hopefully this is just limited to my HW configuration but thank you for the suggestion.

@SebastianR said in How do you slow the speed of the x56 mini-stick that controls the cursor.:

@Icer It is to have a graphic comparison point

Good of you to reference DCS. Thanks for that mental visual, this is exactly what I was looking for.

Cheers folks! I’m a give it a go. Been dying to get some actual f15c action and hopefully now I can.

@AR_Parker Couldn’t replicate with my headset. All surfaces will reflect the White Anti-collision/navi light

First tried all internal lights off then added each one to their respective stops until full on a singular basis, then tried combos. Eventually all. It didn’t matter what I tried and in what order, all surfaces in the avionics suite reflected as they should.

@Hubert3000 said in 4.37.7 Testers needed:

@Seifer

U7 seems to take longer to load than U6 is that because of the debug window stuff running? Apart from that no new problems to report… so far so good.

After I reinstalled both the release and the beta I noticed this too. It hangs for a few seconds.

@SOBO-87 yeah it was. funny enough is that it will only launch for me now with opxrtk, of course mission end is a ctd. Guess it’s Steamvr with openxr as the runtime.

BTW vr seems a bit smoother

Finally got to the bottom of the zoomed in world issue. It’s quite embarrassing really. So like many, I have a startup routine depending on the game. Once the pimax CL play software connects I’m off to the races. Next will be antimicrox which lets me change button presses into keys, I use this because up until now you can’t map the full communications suite to a button (QWERTY) Then it’s Foxvox.

It was the Fox all along. I guess talking to yourself while playing can be hazardous if you don’t configure your text to speech software correctly. Theres a reason why it (zoom) happens primarily in that one mission. It’s because I’m talking to myself through the steps on what to do, and yeah, the word “zoom in” is in there So when it happened again and again today in the steamvr version I was about to just quit BMS all together, when I decided out of curiosity to say zoom out. Viola! it did. And I’m embarrassed lol.

Although it will not go into flight AT ALL under the openxr option for me. Dump file message in previous post still stands.

@airtex2019 CTD as soon as I hit take off using openxr

================================== CRASHLOG =====================================
Falcon BMS.exe caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in:
000000008744ADB0 <UNKNOWN>
Exception handler called in UnhandledExceptionHandler.
Write to location 000000008744adb0 caused an access violation.
Bytes at CS:RIP: ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

Registers:
RAX=0x00007fff8744adb0 RBX=0x000000006c34e600 RCX=0x00000001133e39a0 RDX=0x0000000000000000
RSI=0x00000001133e39a0 RDI=0x000000006c34e618 RBP=0x0000000000000371 RSP=0x0000000038f0fc68
RIP=0x00007fff8744adb0 FLG=0x00004c2f00010297
R8=0x0000000000010c08 R9=0x0000000000010c00 R10=0x0000000004470000 R11=0x0000000038f0fd60
R12=0x0000000000000000 R13=0x0000000000000000 R14=0x0000000000000000 R15=0x0000000000000000
CS=0x0033 DS=0x002B SS=0x002B ES=0x002B FS=0x0053 GS=0x002B

Call Stack:

Top of Stack:
0x0000000038F0FC68: 00007FFF8626DD0D 0000000000510000 0000000000000000 0000000000000080 …&…Q…
0x0000000038F0FC88: 0000000000000008 0000519A03DFB667 0000000004F9CF9C 0000000000000001 …g…Q…
0x0000000038F0FCA8: 00007FFF8626D21D 00007FFF8635C010 0000000000000001 0000000000000371 …&…5…q…
0x0000000038F0FCC8: 0000000000000001 00007FFF8635C010 0000000000000001 0000000038F0FE40 …5…@…8…
0x0000000038F0FCE8: 00007FFF86271B20 0000000000000000 00007FF80DA9BE86 0000000000000002 .'…
0x0000000038F0FD08: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 00007FFF8626DC3A 0000000038F0FE40 …:.&…@…8…
0x0000000038F0FD28: 0000000000000001 0000000000000001 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 …
0x0000000038F0FD48: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000371 …q…
0x0000000038F0FD68: 0000000004F94AB4 0000000038F0FE40 0000000000000001 0000000000000001 .J…@…8…
0x0000000038F0FD88: 0000000000000000 0000000038F0FE20 0000000004E37F7E 0000000038F0FDF0 … …8…~…8…
0x0000000038F0FDA8: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000038F0FDF0 0000000000000057 …8…W…
0x0000000038F0FDC8: 0000000004F3BA03 0000000031D9F900 0000000000000057 000000021EE7E730 …1…W…0…
0x0000000038F0FDE8: 0000000004C6FF10 0000000000000001 0000000031BBBC10 0000000000000371 …1…q…
0x0000000038F0FE08: 0000000000000371 000000021EE7E730 0000000004F3E4B0 0000000031BBBC10 q…0…1…
0x0000000038F0FE28: 0000000031BBBC10 000000011317A590 0000000000000001 000000000000002E …1…
0x0000000038F0FE48: 0000000000000000 0000D9EC3D661998 0000000000000001 0000000031D9DD00 …f=…1…
0x0000000038F0FE68: 0000000000000000 0000000038F0FF00 0000000004A37C59 0000000038F0FF00 …8…Y|…8…
0x0000000038F0FE88: 0000000000000001 0000000000000000 0000000000000001 0000000031D9D8B0 …1…
0x0000000038F0FEA8: 0000000004654D36 00000000F262D352 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 6Me…R.b…
0x0000000038F0FEC8: 00000000000007F8 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 00000000046550B0 …Pe…
0x0000000038F0FEE8: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 00000000046550E8 0000000000000371 …Pe…q…
0x0000000038F0FF08: 0000000031D9DD00 00000004BA500040 0000000031F67F88 0000000031D9DD00 …1…@.P…1…1…
0x0000000038F0FF28: 00000000044C356B 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 k5L…
0x0000000038F0FF48: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 00007FF80B92E8D7 0000000000000000 …
0x0000000038F0FF68: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 …
0x0000000038F0FF88: 00007FF80DB3BF6C 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 000004F0FFFFFB30 l…0…
0x0000000038F0FFA8: 000004D0FFFFFB30 0000000000000021 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0…!..
0x0000000038F0FFC8: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 …
0x0000000038F0FFE8: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 …

================================================================================
TLS frame allocator:
15337 allocations with 112469944 bytes [0]
16377 allocations with 116929720 bytes [1]
Renderer command count: 0
Object at RCX(00000001133E39A0)
Data inaccessible

================================================================================

Compiler Options:
_MSC_VER=1940 WINVER=0x601 _WIN32_WINNT=0x601 _WIN32_WINDOWS=0x601
NTDDI_VERSION=0x6010000 _WIN32_IE=0x800 ANSI _M_AMD64 AMD64 _WIN64 Release*

System Information:
‘D:\Falcon BMS 4.37.7 (Internal)\Bin\x64\Falcon BMS.exe’, run by river.
Error occurred at 08:44:58 on 2025-03-18.
Version: Falcon BMS 4.37.7.5 (x64) 3090
Game is Tactical Engagement type Local
Theater terrain path: ‘D:\Falcon BMS 4.37.7 (Internal)\Data\Terrdata\korea’
Operating System: Windows 10 (10.0.26100) Platform 2 .
Computer Name: GAMING Domain: WORKGROUP.
16 logical processor(s), type 8664.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-Core Processor . AuthenticAMD. Stepping: 0 Model: 4 Family: F.
25% memory in use:
65130 MB physical memory
48519 MB physical memory free
83204 MB paging file
52187 MB paging file free
134217728 MB user address space
134187115 MB user address space free

Module List:
D:\Falcon BMS 4.37.7 (Internal)\Bin\x64\Falcon BMS.exe, loaded at 0x0000000004470000 - 16476672 bytes - TimeDateStamp 0x 67d584ce - File date is 10:46:54 on 2025-03-15

@AR_Parker Couldn’t replicate with my headset. All surfaces will reflect the White Anti-collision/navi light

First tried all internal lights off then added each one to their respective stops until full on a singular basis, then tried combos. Eventually all. It didn’t matter what I tried and in what order, all surfaces in the avionics suite reflected as they should.

@airtex2019 will do, tomorrow, I’m beta testing a few different sims in VR atm. Just got done with the problematic mission, but using steamvr as the init with pimax xr as the runtime. Mission success, no mini blackhole in the cockpit. This was a remedy from another thread where users reported a zooming out (opposite from my issue) that was suggested to me to try for my issue.

@Seifer No, but the frequency in .7 is and that has me concerned. In the quick missions It will run fine with me being able to complete a couple of rounds before I get swarmed by 21’s and 29’s, but load up a TE? It then becomes a question of when. The landing TE I can complete, AAR, sometimes it wigs out when I am taxing back other times after I tank up. But it will happen. So far, the less complex the mission the less likelihood of it happening quickly. Using openxr under Steam in .6 mitigates this to a great degree, but eventually it happens. I was able to compete the AGM Adv TE this way out of two tries. I haven’t started the testing in SteamVr yet, as it wasn’t in my schedule to do so. Tonight, I’ll get around to testing the particular mission that has a near 100% occurrence rate under steamvr/Pimaxr

@AR_Parker I’ll check on my Pimax CL is there a specific mission that this happens in?

4.37.7 is bad for me in my PCL. That zoomed in issue makes all the TE’s unplayable for me. Sometimes it happens within 30 seconds others sometime thereafter or 10-15min later. There is no pattern I can discern. The weird thing about this is that the whole cockpit is squished, it’s as if the model suddenly contracts inwards, and not just the POV camera, but everything inside. Outside of the cockpit it’s fine.

@oleuzop @SoBad @Tumbler31

Roger that, thanks for the info I’ll cross that out from now on. Running openxr under steam is a bit more stable with regards to the Zoomed in issue, but not infallible, as it still succumbs to it but at a far, far less of a constant rate. I’m wondering if other headsets have this issue. This occurs with the same frequency when running the pimax openxr runtime as well.

@Tumbler31 said in 4.37.7 Testers needed:

@Blackhawk163 OpenXR Toolkit is not compatible with BMS

Was it ever? I could’ve sworn at one point it was. Nonetheless, it’s worse off than before so there’s that. The AGM65 advanced TE lasted about 30 seconds before the world compressed in like a neutron star. This has to be mission related right? Something is triggering this bug. Second playthrough of the mission has this event trigger about 5 minutes in. This time just as the destroyers are within visual and I was trying to boresight the mav with the TGP. Third playthrough made it to WP7, the even didn’t trigger and the AA got me instead This behavior is in Windowed, Fullscreen and borderless.

Dunno if this will be seen in the .xlog file or not. The zoomed in issue doesn’t CTD, it just forces the user to end the mission there. Subsequent restart of the mission will start normally. This behavior is in the 4.37.6 build as well.

As far as the openxrtk if that is an issue that won’t be rectified then is it worth supplying the dump on that? The only change from this beta vs current release is when the crash happens.