We of the BMS Other Fighters Mafia continue to work with the Other Jets(other then the Viper) and various Theater Devs. However, we have found it problematic to keep everything straight when dealing with multiple theaters. Plus,as more Other Jets get worked on , we want to be able to present that to the BMS Membership in a timely matter.
So, we have created the OFMKTO Theater, with gratitude to the BMS Devs for all they give to the BMS Family.
This Theater will come as a one-step Installer. Note: some anti-malware apps may have an issue with the Installer, but the program is clean.
The OFMKTO will be used as a testbed for all new Other Jet development, and new versions will be presented as needed. So, if your jet-of-choice needs help, let us know and future version(s) can address it. Also, the Theater Devs can use the OFMKTO jets for their Theaters as they desire.
OFMKTO contains- current Hornet/Super Hornet/Growler development
-current Harrier development
-current F-35 development
- current naval tanker development
-current Tornado development
-current Eurofighter(Typhoon) development
-The Eurofighter has the 4.36 models
- current and future development of many jets
-TE’s and training missions with F-18 and others
-Instant Action with F-18C instead of the Viper
- Periodic changes to campaigns
Thanks to our Contributors–
eddropper
drtbkj
-Musurca
-Falcas
-Scorpion82
-Ronin
-Molni
And as always, CCC

9/17/22 OFMKTO 1.5.( uninstall old/replace with new)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/tdnal555kadh0na/OFMKTO_1.5.exe/file
AND
OFMKTO 1.5 Hotfix ( do not unistall 1.5.)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/6mklx72uik2585o/OFMKTO_1.5_hotfix_1.exe/file
AND
4.36.3 File Hotfix ( do not uninstall 1.5)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/iay35ggdwn5sy/OFMKTO+File+Fix+for+4.36.3

Good Day, All,
Here’s our Mafia Update for the day, and I’m very happy to be making this one. It’s been posted here and elsewhere that the Mafia has been in a phase of “building the infrastructure” to be able to enhance the BMS Hornet, and from there to the BMS" Other Jets". During this time we have “felt the pain” the BMS Dev’s go through developing things. It’s really hard to put a timeline on such things! Anyway, to do this we have been testing using various jets and software tools.
I am very happy to be able to finally make the following announcements…

1. Our testing/developmental “tool box” is now in order. Our “infrastructure” is built
2. While we remain loyal to the FOM’s( Friends of Mafia) and the projects we’ve been asked to do, we are now doing direct development and testing for the BMS Hornet
   And now the fun starts…

With gratitude to, and the permission of, Cougar and the Balkans Team, the BMSOFM presents BalkansOFM 1.5.1.
It includes all the latest OFM flight modeling. The campaigns are based on those in Add-On Balkans, less some of Balkan’s custom textures. The first 3 campaigns are more “Old-School”, and the latter have modern aircraft complements.
Updates from OFMKTO 1.5-

1. Flight model updates on F-18’s and F-35’s.
2. Latest Fifth Generation Pit in the F-35,J20,KF21, and F-22.
   3)Radar Project by CCC-adjustments to multiple aircrafts’ radars for improved modeling on detection ranges, performance and realism.
3. RWR Project by CCC- adjustments to several jets so that they show up properly on RWR

LINK- https://www.mediafire.com/file/08wmu6suz5zllzr/BalkansOFM__1.5.1.exe/file

<p>Good Day, All. Here’s our update for today…<br /> I have been notified that the Mafia hotspot fixes created for 4.35 have been put the base 4.36 install. We are honored the Dev’s include our stuff! Meanwhile, we continue to work on the F-18C flight model. At his point we are working under the assumption that it will not be ready when 4.36 comes out. So, we have already created an “Install Pack” that will have everything you need, including a User Guide, and don’t be worried that it’s some nightmarishly complex procedure. <img src=“/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f628.png?v=1g16vn91q2r” alt=“” class=“not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji–fearful” /> <br />This will also help the other Hornet variants like the EF-18M and the CF-188. I also have a little side project going where I’m experimenting with how the new Hornet stuff relates, or basically how <em>can </em>it relate, to the F-18 E/F and the Growler<br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></p>

Good Day, All. For your enjoyment, we present OFMKTO ver.1.3 The link is in the first post, some backstory will be in the BMSOFM Journal thread shortly.
Personally, what I’m most excited about this is the refined KA-6D and the WIP, but working, F-18E with Buddy Stores!
Changelog:
New “kf18E” for future dev
New Typhoon C.16 for future dev
New SU-30SM for future dev
fixed wing model and fuel probes on many jets
fm.dat fix for AV-8A, harrier Gr3, sea harrier FRS1 and FA2. to enable nozzle vectoring
su-35S and su-35SK gun location was off- FIXED
Su-15 used an old model. UPDATED to Su-15TM
bug - EE lightning F2.92 / F6.11/ F6.5 All three model were not the latest ones.Also, their fm.dat was not correctly linked thru ACD record.-FIXED
Also, their fm. dat were not latest files.-FIXED
bug fix for F27-100 Fokkertanker issues.
bugs in SeaKing AEW chopper-FIXED
F-14D AAR some bugs and missing AAR probe in F-14D cockpitwing model.
F-14A/B/D can not depoly its AAR probe. their fm.dat needed fix
animRefuelAngle 45.0
animRefuelRate 8.0
FIXED
some bugs in kc-130FAA fm.dat-FIXED
Ka-31 helicopter, it should be an AWACS type helicopter. in OFM DB, it uses a hi-poly Ka-32 transport helicopter model.Renamed it to Ka-32 and set as transport chopper.-FIXED
Some G-4 bugs-FIXED
O-1, needs new parent.dat file from my zip. missing many parts due to outdated parent file.-FIXED
OFMKTO DB. A few ac lods were outdated( F-105D, F-105F, F-8E, and Mig-21PF).-UPDATED
FGR1 and FGR2 phantom.corrected and added a few data features
a few missiles were modeled with thick fins, and three ac, latest lods.-UPDATED
su-57 skin-UPDATED
Typhoon C16-Mafia member Dardo wants to set up 2 skin sets, and requested we set reserve numbers so they could be dropped in-DONE
MANY thanks to CCC for his contributions to this!
Also, to gmcustonsauces, we looked at your issue . It may be a bit time-consuming to fix, but we will address it.

BMS Other Fighters’Mafia presents OFMKTO Theater for your enjoyment.
(NOTE: This replaces OFMKTO 1.3) The link is in Post#1.
Changlog:1) New Installer used, and many thanks to Cougar56th for sharing. Window’s Defender no longer has to be turned off.
2) New Particle System configuration setting to enhance visual effects on explosions, traces and such.
Note:You must copy x/4.36/data/Add-on OFMKTO/terrdata/Particle System Configuration Settings to the same location in stock KTO in order to “activate it”.
3)Latest version of MQ-25 and KF-18E tankers added
4a)Latest versions of F/A-18E/F and EA-18G
4b) For future development,changes to vapor trails in E/F/G
5)Campaign and TE changes- Rolling Fire- carriers added to start of campaign
-Bear Trap-KA-6 replaced with KF-18E
-Mantis at Dawn- One squadron of F-18 A Aggressor changed to F-18C, and Essex (Wasp Class) added
-BMSOFM AAR TE-KC-130 changed to MQ-25

    6) Repaired IL78M functionality
    7) Other jets reactivated-

F-15K Slam Eagle ROKAF
F-4D Phantom ROKAF
F-16D block 52+cft RSAF
F-16C Block 32 ROKAF
KF-16 Block 52 ROKAF
F-15CJ Eagle JASDF
F-15DJ Eagle JASDF
F-15I Ra’am IAF
F-16I Block 52+ Sufa IAF
F-16B Block 15 Netz IAF
F-16C Block 30 Barak I IAF
F-16C Block 32 EAF
F-16DG Block 40 FAC
F-16C Block 40 FAC
IL-78 Midas Tanker.

   8) New intro movie by Molni.

Big thanks to ccc again.

Good Day, All,
It’s been awhile since I put in an update, and I have some good news…
Brothers Kaos, Ronin, and Eddie have been working hard on the ground performance aspect of the Hornet’s Flight Model( taxing , braking, and landing) on both land and ship. I was just flight testing the new database and I think you’re going to like the changes. I know I do!
At the same time, we’re also working on the sound package, and that’s very nice, too!
We wanted to get into testing, so our “testing skin” is a bit rough. I mentioned to Ronin that I’d love the skin for Christmas Seriously though, we need to get that sorted out . But, we hope to have something in the Mafia Files soon.

PS: To Dev’s and Theater Devs: We are approaching this in ways that you can easily include this in your projects

Good day, All, Here’s a Mafia Update:
As you might have seen, the 4.36 Nevada came out today. From the Readme…
“Thanks to CCC for MANY contributions to the database
Thanks to DEMA for the C-16 (Eurofighter) skins
Thanks to JACKAL for the TE’s included
Thanks to RONIN for the Carrier Skins. We give you a choice of skins between Enterprise and Roosevelt/Vinson.
Thanks to TOMCAT2 for the voice subtitles for each airbase. That was not a small task!
And, as always, Thanks to CHUCKLES for letting us play in his Theaters
Other Notes- The KOTAR-like “Nellis Test Bombing Range” has been added.
-“KF-18E”( with inproved Buddy Store modeling) and KA-6D tankers have been added.
- IN the TOPGUN campaign, the Hornet,F-35, and probably other squadrons are set to human control. You can change to “set by HQ” as you desire.”

Brother Eddie and I were talking today about where we go from here. We know we’ve been hitting the Membership with a lot of Theaters and updates lately. As mentioned previously, it was a case of momentum and synergism. Changes made in one Theater enhanced another and so on and so on… Now we feel we reached a point where we finish releasing the other Theaters “in the pipeline”. Then we fly them and you fly them, and we take your issues, bugs, and suggestions and incorporate them into an eventual OFMKTO 1.4
Meanwhile, the Fifth Gen Cockpit project will continue, and I’m sure we’ll find *something * to keep us busy

Good Day, All. Today’s has has “teasers” of jets we’re working on at present.
We’re now doing flight testing in the Tornado, and the T-45 . The Goshawk is for a project Brother Ronin has in mind. Those projects are proceeding well.
The top picture is a pet project. A Mafia member asked me about the Tomcat. That kind of inspired me to revisit the jet. We have the variants, the A,B,and D. All are accurate in terms of engines and radar. Since the B and D were essentially the same, I thought it would be fun to modernize the D. I call it Super Tomcat 22. We are also looking at the Phoenix missile flight performance

Hi, Max,
Thanks for the updates. I was wondering about the RWR “M” issue when a Mig-29 caused a “Nylon Let-Down” without an M!
I gotta say, though, think of all the code in something like BMS. So, if the bugs are just things like this, you guys are doing great.
Also, in the Big Picture, please keep something in mind. You may get the occasional troll or someone not clued in. But, don’t let that get to you. The vast majority of us are very aware that you are a small group , and have lives ;). But ,that just increases the appreciation for what The Devs have given us.
Think about it , People. They have given us something FOR FREE that matches ( and in the view of some of us, exceeds) things like DCS…

Good Day, All. I took a little break from the Hornet today to take another look at the F-35C and the F-18E from the viewpoint of our “new” flight modeling mindset.
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s5lbgpqay831n/8519(F-35C)
From this link you can choose either the Fifth Gen Cockpit or the Hornet pit, and both have the current dat/afm.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/hwaabxncryt78yq/F-18E.dat/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/18ufxgfl9kouwq5/F-18E_AFM.dat/file
Like the Hornet, the immediate goal was getting the best performance while reinstating the autothrottle,flaps, and TO trim self cancel. The functionality has been restored, the 35C seems to fly well. A main goal with the Rhino has been to correct a tendency to flat spin. It seems to be doing better in that regard.
Finally, we’re hoping to have the visual deck height issues fixed soon

Good Day,All. Today’s update is about the F-18C FM. We are on a bit of a hiatus due to RL things and Holidays . However, Hornet testing continues and I have refreshed the Mafia files with these current F-18C flight model files.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/58cjejuvdnd0sf7/F-18C.dat/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ccahmnbix0y72na/F-18C_afm.dat/file
These files go into 4.36/Data/any OFM-Chuckles-Osprey theater/sim/acdata
. The 3 functions - autothrottle , flaps, and take-off-trim self cancelling are all working. Now comes doing the best we can making the Hornet fly like a Hornet. The main issue still present in visual deck height on Enterprise. Today I’ll be testing other carriers and retesting ground based visualization.
This remains a WIP, but you are safe in loading them. I have tested them in 3 different OFM Family Theaters. They are stable.
These dats reflect our change of mindset. We’re no longer looking at max G performance and solving issues at the cost of other things. We’ve also come to realize that to fly the Hornet correctly, you have to fly it like a Hornet. Personally, it’s been fun learning that. I find myself telling myself “don’t fly it like a Viper”.

@airtex2019 said in when using snowplow mode(SP) tgp icon doesnt show up on the hud?:

@hellsguard I still see it, but it’s not tracking the FCR crosshairs… it just seems stuck to the currently selected steerpoint.

I’m no authority to say what’s a bug vs what is real life quirkiness of the F-16… but snowplow has always seemed especially quirky.

If I then switch to TGP as SOI and slew it around, both the square and diamond move around… seems “wrong” but again I can’t say that it is.

Anyway I tend not to use SP much (if I do, just briefly to set a markpoint then carry on as I normally would). So I wouldn’t notice if something changed with respect to 4.35…

Hi, Airtex, Idk, but it seems to make sense to me if we think of Snowplow as an “override” to the system. You are bypassing the SPI architecture in order to quickly scan an area, as Stevie wrote" just letting it plow along". If that’s the case, then the TGP acting independently makes sense . The question I have is if the TGP “reslaves” to FCR once a target has been designated on the FCR. If yes, then we seem good-to-go

Meanwhile, Happy Thanksgiving to those that celebrate it. The Update for today is that Hornet/SuperHornet continues at a slower pace due to RL stuff and Holidays. One specific that is looking promising regards the SH spin issue. We’re also adjusting our “philosophy” a bit. Instead of just trying to solve problems by adding G performance to the mix , we’re looking at things that make the jet fly better, and where things like the autothrottle work.

@Mav-jp said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:

How the F am i involved in a discussion I’m not even part of ?

That’s fame ? ROFLMAO

The price of being a BMS Legend, perhaps…?

@Aragorn Hi, ‘Gorn. TGW is a valued friend and Mafia member . I am grateful to have such a friend. Meanwhile, I suggest we get “back to business”, which is to make the best F-18, and Other Jets, we can.
We’re all in this together, Guys

@Dardo_01 Hi, Dardo. Thanks for that tip. Well certainly test that

@TOPOLO said in BMS Other Fighters Mafia (BMSOFM) Journal:

@Aragorn Thanks’ a lot Ara for your kind and warm post… (I really believe very few here take the time to understand what kind of lovely person you are)

If my post have seemed rude, I would like to apologize for that, was not my intent.

Some years ago, I spend a very long time (may be several hundred of hours…) to fine tune the F/A-18 FM, mostly by reverse engineering, but not only.

Once I’ve been able to demonstrate inside the BMS team the accuracy of this OFM when it comes to performance, I had the chance to bring interest of Mav.

He has accepted to code some specific F/A-18 FLCS features (may be the first time he accept to code something deep in the FLCS code for a non-viper a/c), and, believe me, this has not been done by educated guess (even if I must admit the level of detail available on Hornet is not the one we have on the Viper, and BTW, Hornet FLCS are much more complex and sophisticated than the Viper ones). The AoA and G limitors are an example, but you can also take into account Auto-Throttle, Auto-Flaps…

Even if the stock BMS4.35 Hornet FM cannot claim for the same level of fidelity than the Viper one, it is one of the best you can have (IMO many light years ahead of what you can have in DCS for example…), and of course, all 4.36 legacy Hornet FM have still the same level of quality and fidelity.

So, I can understand some always want to improve things, but I would have expected that before trying to modify one thing or another, one produce a detailed analysis of what is provided, and in what it is different from what it should be… (in the same way you should have ask a modification/improvement of one of the F-16 FM)…
And one of the problems with this kind of approach is that, if you want to demonstrate one specific feature being badly implemented, you may have to refer to documents you are not allowed to have (or at least you are not allowed to mention in a public area like here)

Just to explain better what I’ve tried to say in some of my previous posts…

I will not be able to continue this discussion here for the moment, not because it is useless, but just because I’m focused on another FM to rework, it takes me several hours a day to fit the schedule the BMS team has allocate to me.

Stay tuned, and Fly Safe !

Firstly, Gorn, thx for the post. We are fully aware of the communication barriers that language and nationality can cause. Plus, I have come to trust your views on things, so if you “vouch” for him, then good.
We choose not to be bothered by what “things sound like”. We will work with anyone as long as the job gets done. Also, as passionate about BMS as we all are, at the end of the day it’s a game(gasp!) for our enjoyment . For the record, I personally pm’d topolo on this and he has not replied. We provided what we know is accurate data and there has been no response to that. We(the Mafia) are doing what we can but without hard code access. We understand that the Dev’s are very propriety with the code. No problem. But is there a reason the data we provide can’t be used, if even for testing? Is there a reason we can’t get an answer on the HAS NASA issue? May I suggest we worry less about who says what to who and address the issues?
We all want is a perfected Hornet FM. And , let me be very clear that we are NOT demeaning or insulting to what has been done before. We greatly appreciate the jet we have been given.
Topolo, I accept your apology and thank you for that. And, once again, I want to express my gratitude for what Mav, you, and others have provided. As for what we do, you are exactly right about the dangers and problem involved with the reverse engineering you describe. So, why don’t we all work together and get this done?
All, I’m going to take this opportunity to share a question I’ve been asking myself for a long while…Two years ago Mav came on the old Forum and expressed the hope that some third party handle would the Other Jets. It was that statement more then anything inspired the Mafia to form. My question is, why won’t you give us the tools to do just that, or even just talk to us about it?
If not, we will continue to do what we can with the tools we have

@Dardo_01 Thanks, we welcome your help.
Speaking of Brother Dardo, he has provided some files for the EF-18M-https://www.mediafire.com/file/qtuky7svh024bxn/MOD_EF-18M.rar/file

As for the F-18C, Today I’ve been doing a “flyoff” between the stock KTO, our stock OFMKTO, and the current files we were experimenting with. With Brother Ronin back in the FM discussion, I’ve realized something. This is just my opinion at present, but I believe we were so focused on max G that we compromised other parameters. So, the stock OFM files are back in the Mafia Files
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vj47jfawxiz0hs/F-18C.dat/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/lxuub88wuakimw7/F-18C_afm.dat/file
They go in 4.36/data/any OFM 1.5 or greater theater/sim/acdata.
I believe these will be our starting point as we move forward

Good Day, All,
Today’s post is an update and a Call To Arms. You see, we in the Mafia have been answering people’s requests, working on various things, and having a lot of fun doing it. We have projects for Fifth Gen, Tomcat/Phoenix missile, Tornado, bringing a lot of jets into out Theaters, and more. All great, and we will continue doing so. But, there are only so many hours in the day, and we feel our focus has become a little less “sharp”. In short, we feel we’ve been spinning our wheels a bit.
We started as Project Bug, the development of the F-18. We did so because we felt, and still do, that would benefit the most BMS Members the quickest. And so, I’m here to tell you now that we are rededicating ourselves to that end. We’ll keep doing the other stuff but our primary focus will be on the Legacy Hornet.
That was the update part of this post. The Call to Arms part is that we are reaching out to everyone, Devs and non-Devs, to work with us on flight model creation/validation and perfecting the physical 3D model. We will be reaching out to Topolo and everyone else we can reach so that we can finally provide the Hornet you all want.
We will do the work. But, the more help we get, the sooner we get it done