@Jackal
Noted

Btw has anybody tested AAR with the Typhoon and can report back whether the position basket/probe is correct? Ideally with screenshots if the position doesn’t fit. If so I’ll put it on my to do list.

General remarks, the FM is OFM, not AFM, as I first want to get it right and reasonably close.

I have addressed a number of topics on the fly, such as implementing the emergency arrestor hook (would need some testing apart from the visual implementation).

Weight and fuel loads are accurate now.

Gun location is fixed, matching the new 3D Model.

Chaff/flare dispenser quantity, position and loadout are correct. Two chaff dispenser at ITSPL position and two flare dispensers on inboard flaperon actuator fairings.

Air intake vary cowl movement is now implemented, animation behaviour has been implemented, but needs some validation testing.

General control surface movements and behaviour have been adjusted (airbrake, nozzles, slats, flaperons, roll coupling of foreplanes and “landing flaps” removed).

The general limiter values have been adjusted as part of the overall FM.

As long as no dedicated models of Typhoon racks and pylons are implemented I have assigned those available in the DB and created appropriate rack entries and groups. There are subsequently ITSPL, DMMEL, ALDERU, AHDERU, TEU, MFRL and Brimstone tripple launcher available. MFRL and Brimstone launcher are attached to ALDERU. Due to the lack of a proper 1000 l SFT model the TEU is a separate pylon but goes of with the tank if jettisoned. AAM jettison from FSU doesn’t work yet though and I’m not sure whether the it will be possible to only get the wing pylons and centreline station shown on the SMS page. To be done are dedicated rack entries in the DB to provide tailored weight and drag data for these. Hence no FM testing with stores yet.

Weapon loadouts have been matched with P2Eb and P3Ea standard A/C as operated by GAF and RAF respectively.

I have also adjusted the avionic options to best match the Typhoon within the given constraints. Feedback on that would be welcome as well. This also includes radar data and autopilot envelope.

In the future it’s ofcourse desirable to get everything included in the stock BMS release to permanently improve the simulation of the A/C. I have made an initial package available, we’ll see whether it will find its way into the next update.

Medium to long term a 3D cockpit would certainly be the most valueable addition though. But that needs someone with the will, time, the experience and skills.

I have deleted the link to the open beta test version of the EFTP. The modded Typhoon is now fully integrated with the OFM Theater which can downloaded from
here.

OFM development is now complete with v1.2. I’m now progressing with what I call the hybrid flight model, which attempts the development of an AFM. It might be a bit simplified though, compared to the extant AFMs for other aircraft.

Update on the general progress:
Beta 1 FM testing is thus far complete and findings are being adressed and progressively tested. Major challenge with the OFM is to tune the supersonic lift values to limit g-authorities. AoA limiters work reasonably well, not perfect though. Idle thrust and fuel flow tables needs to be reworked yet.

Vary cowl animations have been tested and refined and are now working satisfactorily. Roll data are now complete as well.

Engine nozzle animation behaviour is now properly implemented and the advanced engine dynamics have been introduced. These are preliminary and need further validation testing and refinement, but work satisfactorily for the moment.

MFD symbology colors have been matched as close as possible to the real aircraft within given constraints. These are part of the FM.dat and can be replaced with the DTC values, if required. Some testing is required to determine whether all changes are acceptable though, given that the symbology is not exactly the same in the F-16.

Other avionic settings have been tailored to best match the Typhoon. Auto throttle control activation is still being investigated as it seems not to be a simple 0 or 1 only switching.

Dedicated racks have been included in Beta 1 already, but related testing is postponed, until FM development of Beta 2 has progressed to a satisfactory level.

For Beta 2 I consider an open test, maybe using JSGVM or another suitable mod manager.

Gents,

I have created a BETA 1.1 for open testing, as BETA Flight Model development takes more time.

The changes, compared to the stock BMS 4.36 Typhoon aircraft are described within the readme file, as are the installation instructions.

NOTE: If your install is modified (database edits) this mod may cause issues. It’s extremely important to backup the files you have, as described in the readme.

Simply extract the zip to a folder of your choice, backup the files of your install, as described within the README. Then extract the install.zip file on your Falcon BMS 4.36 maindirectory. This will extract the files in the appropriate folders and overwrite those already located there.

I haven’t managed to get it working with OvGME in time, so I decided for this simpler solution.

Feel free to test the modified aircraft, its flight model, weapons and avionics settings. If you have any questions, comments or other observations let me know.

If devs of the BMS team or theater feel that this mod is good as is, or wish to include content of it, feel free to do so, giving credit to me. I can support devs, if required to support integration of the modifications, if required.

LINK DELETED

Best regards
Scorpion

Every A/C is effectively flyable.

I voted for the C, as it’s the most widespread variant and most suitable for a wide range of scenarios from ca. 2005 until today. Twinseats make little sense with the present single seat limitations.

Hi all,

I seek some volunteers, presumably with an EF background, to test my new WIP Flight Model for the Typhoon. Anyone who is interested can contact me here or via PM.

Testing should include general handling, maneuvering capabilities at all speeds and altitudes, kinematic performance, altitude performance, acceleration and climb performance tests, endurance and range tests of a clean aircraft.

@danaos75 & @Logic

thank you. I’ll give it a try for 4.36 setup, might make things easier.

At least the 3D Model is available, which is very much appreciated.

Seems some more work should and could be done on the data part of the aircraft. As I’ll probably have some more time for this I’ll take a look at it.

@drtbkj

yes tried and verified all this already. No problems when flying the Hornet. Hence the thought about the flaps relationship, due to the approach and cruise modes on the Hornet. I’ll do some additional verification tests with TEF implemented in the FM, just to see whether there is a relationship or not. Found no related entry in the afm.dat either.

@rookieskyworker said in GBU-53:

@canuck Hello. I also have same question and I surf the web and I see your posting.
I think it has some limitation about launching. I set GBU53’s mode from IR to Laser in editor but it doesn’t work. And I find GBU39 has visual guidance and 53 has IR guidance in editor. I think GBU 53 has no traking guidance against moving target. It just dummy I think.

You should take the LJDAM as an example (GBU-54). It’s not just the normal guidance, but also the pointers. Haven’t played BMS for a while and haven’t moded it since a while either. Might be that GBU-53 already works like the LJDAM, check the settings on the SMS page.

Every A/C is effectively flyable.

I voted for the C, as it’s the most widespread variant and most suitable for a wide range of scenarios from ca. 2005 until today. Twinseats make little sense with the present single seat limitations.

@GARDINI
Not sure why, is it using a different DB (terrdata\objects) folder? If yes, then it might be that, either the numbers are different or the cockpit wings model isn’t present in the DB.

@GARDINI
in the respective cockpit arts folder of that theater. You have to do this with every theater, as every theater is typically using its own DB. That also means that numbers of the model might change.

@GARDINI
I think the folder must be called EF. But there is an entry in the database (vehicles => Aircraft). Open the respective A/C EF2000 GE/UK and check for the name. My PC is currently offline, so can’t look it up myself. Copy paste the 3dckpt.dat from the cockpit you like to use in that folder and change the cockpit wings model number accordingly. It should then show up in the cockpit.

@GARDINI
Have you created a dedicated cockpitfolder for the Typhoon and placed the cockpit.dat file there?

@GARDINI

The Cockpit Wings model is a separate 3D model maintained within the database. With 4.34 the cockpit wings model for the Typhoon has been removed. You better opt for 4.36 which includes the new external 3D model from Manos1981. I don’t know whether a cockpit wings model has been introduced with U1 or U2, but one has been created by the Other Fighters Mafia for their OFMKTO theater. It also includes much more data work on the Typhoon and is at the moment the best you can get from Falcon BMS as far as the Typhoon is concerned.

I suppose to have errorneously clicked on the poll, with unknown result.

My opinion is that more stealth is a bit of an imbalancing change because:
1.) The public RCS values can certainly be taken with a grain of salt. There are many factors influencing the RCS of an aircraft, these values aren’t static by any means.

2.) The systems modeling in BMS doesn’t reflect the state of the art of sensors, defensive systems, weapons and networking capabilities available to many 4th generation fighters that would at least improve their chances of survival. Notably increasing the number of stealth A/C would cause a massive increase in difficulty.

3.) Bear in mind that stealth is also about RF emission control, IR signatures and passive sensors and targeting capabilities.

If you opt for a more stealth fighters campaign, I would recommend a separate campaign scenario for those who like to fly such aircraft. Keep one with limited stealth for game balance reasons for those who prefer to fly none LO types.

@rookieskyworker

you need to align the weapon itself from the SMS page! Check the manual for JSOW/JDAM delivery. In game the KEPD350 is similar to the JSOW in termsbof delivery.

@qawa

If there is any chance for a new Typhoon cockpit, I can at least provide some support for its functional design tailored for BMS 4.36.

The F-15E shots look pretty nice. Though I value functionality over looks. Both is premium

@white_fang

Curious, I thought the “glued to ground effect” was limited to non-afm A/C and that it had been fixed with U1. Haven’t tested U1 yet though.

As it was said it is a code thing which has something to do with tilting, I could imagine it has something to do with the wheel strut movement (shock absorbers). It might be worth to try by setting all values in the dat file to “0”, have thought about it weeks ago already, but didn’t mind to test it, as it was said to be a code thing to be fixed with U1.