TARGET Software issues
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I believe that the Alt Launcher saves the data to the BMS - Full.key that is in your User/Config folder.
There are also some Setup.v100 files in the Config folder as well that looks like are modified by Alt Launcher.
Have you checked the “Use 3-Way ON-OFF-ON Switch for DOGFIGHT” option at the bottom of the screen?
There is a video that was put out by the dev a few years ago. He goes through the process of setting up the dogfight switch, but it is kind of fast and no sound, and looks like it is from when he was developing the program. Maybe you could watch it and get an idea of what you need to do. He also shows the files that are being used.
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I believe that the Alt Launcher saves the data to the BMS - Full.key that is in your User/Config folder.
So, if a person backed up their BMS - Full.key file, in a save place. If things went belly up, copying it back into the normal User/Config folder, the ALT Launcher would see the same. Cool.
edit> I just read somewhere that the Alt Launcher edits the BMS - Full.key file using various Setup.v100.??? {???}.xml files that it creates. So it’s probably a good idea to save those in a save place also.
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MRM Override | DX9 INV: DN
Cancel Override | DX10 REL INV: DN & DX9 REL INV: DN
Dogfight Override | DX10 INV: DNFinally got it to work using your informative post. Thanks Again.
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Sounds like a good idea to save those files, good to hear that you were able to get your setup working!!
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In regards to using Voice Attack
Thinking about using this to program the Warthog Throttle POV.
Question I have before buying is, Can this be a mix and match thing, meaning if all the other switches on the Warthog Throttle are DX programmed with the Alt Launcher, can the Warthog Throttle POV be separately programmed with the Voice Attack software without messing up the previous DX commands on the same device?
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How are you going to program the POV with Voice Attack? As far as I know, VoiceAttack will only call buttons or switches that are already binded, it won’t program anything for you.
I think what you want to do is program using joystick gremlin and vJoy, or some similar program.
See this post, #8, for how I set up my throttle POV https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?37210-Need-help-with-throttle-POV&p=522242#post522242
It won’t mess up any of your previous bindings.
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84hd79:
I read somewhere else on the Forum, that another person was using Voice Attack to program the Throttle POV since BMS won’t see it, and looking thru the manual for Voice Attack, it references the POV in several places. Evidently, it’s one of Voice Attack’s lesser known capabilities. I’m probably gonna get Voice Attack anyhow, for it’s other capabilities. I just don’t want to mess up all the DX work I accomplished yesterday with your help and the only button not capable of being DX programmed with BMS is the Throttle POV.
straight from Voice Attack manual:
… In the big middle of everything is where you can set up your POV (hat) controllers to act like simple switches. Your POV can become a switch that acts like 1, 2, 4 or 8 buttons. For instance, if you select 4, pushing forward, right, back or left on your POV will make VoiceAttack treat each position as POV button 1, 2, 3 and 4 respectively. If you select option1, VoiceAttack treats any direction as POV button 1. Selecting 2 (Up/Down), if you push up, that represents POV button 1. Pulling back represents POV button 2, and so on. VoiceAttack can support up to four POV controllers on each joystick if you’ve got 'em. In the bottom-left portion of the screen, you will see the, ‘Test’ button. If your joysticks are assigned and enabled, you can click on this button to try them out.
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I see. I will have to tinker with Voice Attack to see if I could get that to work because if I am already running voice attack then I won’t have to run the joystick gremlin.
Worst case just backup those files and give it a shot. The vJoy method only take 2-5 minutes to set up and it works flawlessly for me so far. The vJoy creates a virtual device that you can program with the joystick gremlin program and then map with the BMS alt launcher. It won’t mess up what you already have because BMS will see it as a separate device, it will show up as vJoy device 1 in your key mapping screen in alt launcher and those DX assignments will be for the vJoy, not your warthog.
Edit -> Just tried setting up the hat switch with VoiceAttack. This works also and is also pretty easy to setup so it seems like a good option as well!!
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… Edit -> Just tried setting up the hat switch with VoiceAttack. This works also and is also pretty easy to setup so it seems like a good option as well!!
AND this didn’t mess with your other DX programmed Throttle Buttons, I presume?
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No, if you use the Voice Attack it does not assign a DX for that button. It does not use your key files at all. The voiceattack reconizes the button press and you link the controller button press to a keyboard command.
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So, great discussion but I’m a bit concerned with this as well and if I’ve read this all correctly was the issue resolved in a roundabout way for both Hat switches to be usable? I do have Voice Attack and from my reading it appears that Alternative Launcher seems to be the way to go over TARGET of which seems to be reviled in so many ways. I’m in all likelihood going with the Warthog and the TM 10th Aniv base and F16C setup