KEYSPEECH PROFILES- FOR ALL CALLSIGNS!!!!
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Can someone tell me what the difference is between the teamspeak plugin and the stand alone, functionally? Do they differ in how they work and options available? I am not flying online now and I am curious as to how the teampseak, keyspeech and IVC supplement each other. The last time I went online was a few years ago and I remember I used teamspeak and IVC. Now I like being able to use VA for AI radio and I am very interested in keyspeech. I did a VAC trial but I am not sold because it won’t do DX inputs. Now hearing that Keyspeech does makes me very interested. If I get Keyspeech I can use it by itself offline. If I go online will I need teamspeak, Keyspeech and IVC? If not what? If I will be using it online should I get the teamspeak plugin? I guess what I’m trying to ask is: What do I need to use with BMS 4.33 U1 and keyspeech to fly online and talk to Human wingmen? Do I need teamspeak, IVC or both, or something difffernt all together. If I need teamspeak then it would make sense to get the keyspeech plugin. I am trying to keep the background programs to a minimum.
Thanks
I have no clue what the Keyspeech TS plugin does, but I can try to help you out with the other stuff.
First, you can use VAC online with a little workaround, even it does not support DX buttons. But i don’t recommend to use VAC to play online due to the what I explained in this post.
But if you just want to try it, what you can do is to use a joystick mapping utility to map both PTTs to the same key (i.e. ScrollLock) and use that key as the VAC PTT. There are numerous freeware joystick mappers like SVMAPPER. I for one use a little payware program called Xpadder to do all the mapping of my various input devices.
When you press either of your DX PTTs, falcon will “see” that particular DX button and VAC will “see” its PTT key(i.e ScrollLock). Make sure that the key you use as PTT for VAC has no function at all at falcon.Second, you can use Keyspeech both online and offline, and alone or in combination with IVC or/and Teamspeak. Since you can assign multiple Dx buttons to be PTTs in keyspeech, you must assign both the DX buttons you use in BMS as PTTs for Keyspeech. This way, when you press either VHF or UHF transmit in BMS, your keyspeech program will start listening. You will have to figure out how to bring Teamspeak into the equation, because when I fly online with my sqn, once we are in the cockpit, we mute TS and we don’t use it at all.
hope it helps….
and I am done half way through the profiles for 4.33. i hope I can release them soon, but for you can use the 4.32 profiles available. Tver quien like for 95% of the radio comms. Only a few things change in the tower menu.
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I have no clue what the Keyspeech TS plugin does, but I can try to help you out with the other stuff.
First, you can use VAC online with a little workaround, even it does not support DX buttons. But i don’t recommend to use VAC to play online due to the what I explained in this post.
But if you just want to try it, what you can do is to use a joystick mapping utility to map both PTTs to the same key (i.e. ScrollLock) and use that key as the VAC PTT. There are numerous freeware joystick mappers like SVMAPPER. I for one use a little payware program called Xpadder to do all the mapping of my various input devices.
When you press either of your DX PTTs, falcon will “see” that particular DX button and VAC will “see” its PTT key(i.e ScrollLock). Make sure that the key you use as PTT for VAC has no function at all at falcon.Second, you can use Keyspeech both online and offline, and alone or in combination with IVC or/and Teamspeak. Since you can assign multiple Dx buttons to be PTTs in keyspeech, you must assign both the DX buttons you use in BMS as PTTs for Keyspeech. This way, when you press either VHF or UHF transmit in BMS, your keyspeech program will start listening. You will have to figure out how to bring Teamspeak into the equation, because when I fly online with my sqn, once we are in the cockpit, we mute TS and we don’t use it at all.
hope it helps….
and I am done half way through the profiles for 4.33. i hope I can release them soon, but for you can use the 4.32 profiles available. Tver quien like for 95% of the radio comms. Only a few things change in the tower menu.
Thanks. So if I am understanding correctly, teamspeak is not used in game. IVC can be used in game but keyspeech is all you need when in game. Yeah, I had that problem with VAC and had to make a PTT key on my HOTAS but because it is not DX it made that button lose all other functions. I am going to try out Keyspeech because it sounds like I can assign it a DX callback in the key file and keep the shifted callbacks for that button. Thanks.
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Regarding human to human comms, you can use either IVC or Teamspeak as you desire, or as your wingmen require. Some groups use Teamspeak for organizing/planning and switch to IVC in 3D to take advantage of the UFC channel selection. I am not familiar with the Teamspeak plugins. When flying online I use Keyspeech with a unique PTT button for comms with AI entities.
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When flying online I use Keyspeech with a unique PTT button for comms with AI entities.
Just for clarification.
It is possible to use a single dedicated Keyspeech PTT, different from the IVC PTTs ( I understand this is Habu’s config)or
The two IVC PTTs can be used also as Keyspeech PTT.
I prefer the latter because this way if I want to ask for a picture, at the same time that Keyspeech is listening to my “magic, falcon 11 request picture” call, so are my human teammates. When I am done with the call, Keyspeech will type “q 1” for me, but at the same time, my sqn mates will have listened to my comm, as they would have in RL.
From time to time, it can happen that when you want to tell your wingman “Man, I am hungry”, Keyspeech understands " two go lower " and types something. This is what I call false positives.
They can be minimized by increasing the value of the “accuracy” slider on the Keyspeech settings.
I for one have this slider at 92%.
The higher you set this value the “more perfect” you have to pronounce the commands sentences for Keyspeech to recognize them, but the lower the possibilities to get a false positive.
With the accuracy slider set to a very high value, from time to time, your AI command sentence won’t be understood but, guess what, from time to time that also happens IRL and you have to call magic again with your request because they were to busy putting sugar on their coffees…[emoji12]
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HEY jcenzano
what a cool application
OUTSTANDING WORK - thanks !! :headb:
just allow me “my two cents”……
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THE FOLLOWING COMMANDS HAVE THE SAME EFFECT AS USING “AWACS REQUEST RECUE CHOPPER” Q9
“eject eject eject”
**“mayday mayday mayday”“C/S+ mayday mayday mayday”
i.e Falcon 11 mayday mayday mayday**
–---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I wouldn’t implement this to the “MAYDAY”-call - just to the “EJECT”
reason is: there are multiple options/requirements you have to declare MAYDAY by using this phrase to ATC but this does NOT require a rescue chopper all the time !
else than that: great tool which just entered to my wishlist (downloading right now!)
cheers
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HEY jcenzano
what a cool application
OUTSTANDING WORK - thanks !! :headb:
just allow me “my two cents”……
I wouldn’t implement this to the “MAYDAY”-call - just to the “EJECT”
reason is: there are multiple options/requirements you have to declare MAYDAY by using this phrase to ATC but this does NOT require a rescue chopper all the time !
else than that: great tool which just entered to my wishlist (downloading right now!)
cheers
Thank you!!!
I just made the profiles. I wish my programming skills were so that I could have written Keyspeech.
For that all the credit must go to Mr. Ouellet a.k.a. in this forum as “Keyspeech”
As for the mayday call, its there because it is rarely used in the military enviroment, only for the most critical life-threatening time-critical emergencies. In some civilian flight schools, the teach MAYDAY, MAYDAY MAYDAY as a synonym of “declaring emergency”. Well, while they might be theoretically correct, in practice, mayday is rarely used and only when you are in deep shit and you want everybody else to shut up on the radio.
You are correct that not all the times it requires a rescue chopper, but if something goes terribly wrong, you will probably find yourself calling mayday and later ejecting. Anyway, it does no harm that it is there (and it is terribly tedious to change all profiles only for that) :p:p:p But I do appreciate the feedback.
thanks
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Correction. I have tried most all the voice command programs and have found Voice Attack to be the most flexible and feature-rich. VA has the ability to play a sound file during the execution of each command, so I have programmed my spoken commands to play a mic click at the end of each command.
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FWIW, Keyspeech does have the ability to play a confirmation beep or even say the command back to you in computer voice. Not sure if you can edit the confirmation sound…
That being said, I haven’t seen anybody have the realism and sheer number of options that JC’s profiles bring for any other software.
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FWIW, Keyspeech does have the ability to play a confirmation beep or even say the command back to you in computer voice. Not sure if you can edit the confirmation sound…
That being said, I haven’t seen anybody have the realism and sheer number of options that JC’s profiles bring for any other software.
To be honest I have not tried Voice Attack.
For me the key feature that made me choose keyspeech over vac or shoot, is the accuracy slider and the ability to reduce the false positives when flying online.
I don’t know if you can change the beep sound in KS, but for sure that is a feature that is pretty easy to implement. Maybe you can “formally” request it to the Dev.
Besides, it can be useful to fly offline, but if you use IVC, that mic effect is already available.
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Besides, it can be useful to fly offline, but if you use IVC, that mic effect is already available.
Single player has a mic click without IVC IIRC LOL.
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Single player has a mic click without IVC IIRC LOL.
My fish memory…
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Hey jcenzano
Hy folks,
Sorry to bother with problems…
Downloaded Keyspeech, downloaded your voice commands - impoted them accordingly, I can see the list in the Voice command manager… Set up a keycombo to toggle activation of keyspeech. Works fine, as I can hear"Keyspeech ON /OFF" on my speakers…
I tested i.ex. on ground with “tower say QNH” - no result…
1.) do I have to train those commands? If yes, where can I do that?
2.) how can I verify outside of BMS, wether the commands work? Any chance to see that in Keyspeak??
Got a germen keyboard and german Win10 language selected - is this the problem?
Do I have to activate Win speech recognition ??
Any other program missing??Thanks
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Hey jcenzano
Hy folks,
Sorry to bother with problems…
Downloaded Keyspeech, downloaded your voice commands - impoted them accordingly, I can see the list in the Voice command manager… Set up a keycombo to toggle activation of keyspeech. Works fine, as I can hear"Keyspeech ON /OFF" on my speakers…
I tested i.ex. on ground with “tower say QNH” - no result…
1.) do I have to train those commands? If yes, where can I do that?
2.) how can I verify outside of BMS, wether the commands work? Any chance to see that in Keyspeak??
Got a germen keyboard and german Win10 language selected - is this the problem?
Do I have to activate Win speech recognition ??
Any other program missing??Thanks
First of all, you don’t bother at all. And actually you help people who can have the same problem in the future. That’s is one of the main functions of these forums [emoji106]
I don’t know how this work on W10.
Maybe the Dev can tell us for sure, bit I think that the only thing that you need is Windows speech recognition for English.I don’t know if that is included in your German OS. I have an English Windows 7, and unfortunately I am not aware what other versions of Windows include.
You can verify that KS works placing the cursor on any program t in which you can type, I.e. notepad.
Then say a phrase (I always say “magic request picture”)
If q 1 is typed, then the program works.
There are differences about having a key for KS activation and a PTT(push to transmit)
To play falcon most people use a PTT, which will turn ks listening mode while it is depressed and will return to sby mode when released.
I can’t run the program here, do I am not 100% sure, but IIRC, one thing is to have Keyspeech on, and some other is that ks is actually listening.
You can not train these sentences. For better recognition, you have to run the standard windows speech recognition training sessions. You don’t train Keyspeech, you train the windows built in speech recognition engine.
Hope this helps
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Well, jcenzano,
it didn’t help too much because - YOU WERE RIGHT - the problem seems to be the MISSING english version of the Windows voice recognition program
I did install the US English language version and also downloaded and installed “MSSpeech_SR_en-US_TELE.msi” which I thought to be the english version of the voice recognition program…. but… it does not work!
When starting the PC it just gives me an error message saying the language selected (english) is not compatible with the recognition language and one should correct it in the setup under “advanced setup”Now see the picture…
The is no other option besides that of the Microsoft Speech Recognizer ( German )…. ???
Somebody nows how to install the complete english recognition tool ???
Thanks
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Changing the language version is only possible if you use Enterprise or Ultimate Edition. In other versions the Speech Recognizer Language is tied to the systemlanguage.
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I got this message from support:
Speech Recognition is available in English, French, Spanish, German, Japanese, Simplified Chinese, and Traditional Chinese.
You can access quickly to the Windows speech recognition engine by clicking on the Speech Profile manager menu item (KeySpeech icontray):
KeySpeech will select the checked*one in the recognition profiles list :
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V3.0 released with updated profiles released including new BMS 4.33 radio commands and fixing minor errors.
Links updated on first post
http://ul.to/6u682p19Profiles are backwards compatible with 4.32, since added commands in BMS 4.33 where compatible with the existing ones. No command has be deleted, since outdated phrases do not interfere with the new ones.
Enjoy…
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Thank you very much, Chipi. Awesome work.
BZ!!
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Hi All,
I am having the same issue related by another user. When I say “Chalice request picture” for example, my system switch to Desktop.
Looks like Windows speech is understanding this as a command to open or do something on Desktop.
Can anyone help?Thanks,
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Hi All,
I am having the same issue related by another user. When I say “Chalice request picture” for example, my system switch to Desktop.
Looks like Windows speech is understanding this as a command to open or do something on Desktop.
Can anyone help?Thanks,
RogerioHi Rogerio:
Does it happen with all the commands or only with the “request picture” one?
Could you give a little bit more information about your rig, OS, software that you are running in the background that could make this happen?
I am not able to replicate the bug, but I think it could be caused because the keystrokes commanded by Keyspeech trigger some other action on some other program. A little bit of a guess…