I've forgotten how to land!
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So I’ve been in and out of F4 since it was released. Thousands of flights and thousands of hours. I change my HOTAS to force sensing and I can no longer land! I need to relearn it entirely!
Anyone else struggle to get to grips with force sensing when it comes to precision flying?
Oh, and I still suck at AAR. Sometimes I hook up quickly, others, end up with a Fox 2 call.
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I have x-65f.
I took me few weeks (even months) to properly get used to it.
Once you got used to it however (what WILL eventually happen due to brain neuroplasticity) your experience will change. you will just think about it, and the aircraft will go where you want. Like a direct link between your brain and the aircraft. The aircraft becomes a part of your being. That is the magic with the force sensing, you are not aware at all, that the joystick is there. It is difficult to describe, but you will understand what I mean after few months. Do not give up.
Force sensing is the ultimate experience when flying 4th and 5th generation fighters and space sims.
But, the above does not apply to older ww2 aicraft with physical controls. Using force sensing with old prop planes results in a sloppy flying performance.
But who flies them anyway?[emoji6]Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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Good on you. My advice? Make the stick less sensitive.
Thats right, LESS sensitive. You want to have to really haul on it to get that 9G. You will want to secure it firmly; an unsecured force sensing stick is a pain to use. You cant use a low enough sensitivity to fly, and even with a high sensitivity, a good portion of your effort goes into downforce, to keep the stick from lifting the base off the table/desk/whatever.
Once you have a good calibration for the force you are willing to fly with, it will take a little bit of flying to get the hang of it. This is not unusual. Make sure to not use any curves in the joystick software; a linear response is what you want, as BMS models the correct response curve under the hood already.
I struggled. Had some very patient advice from Raven6 which helped a lot. Mostly keep at it, have a low sensitivity, and use small inputs and corrections.
In the case of AAR, you may want to have a read of the formation knowledge guide (http://falcon.blu3wolf.com/Docs/FAST_FKG.pdf).
The great advantage to a low sensitivity, I have found, is the great accuracy that results. I can pull a set G with a set known amount of force, and I can replicate this without looking at the G meter. The corresponding disadvantage though, is that sustained 9G is a pain in the a…rm. There is some truth to the commentary, that viper pilots have their right arm much bigger than their left.
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I’m not sure I can trust the information but I have found some posts about RL F-16 SSC sensitivity at F-16.net forum.
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=232351&sid=6c75db93ff97a517f358402c9795d7dc#p232351
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=114877#p114877
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=114960#p114960 -
Matches more or less what was posted in the flight model notes in the articles section of the forum 3 to 4 weeks ago.
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https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/content.php?149-Flight-Model-(FM)-Developer-s-Notes-Part-4
Yes. But also seems if desktop pilot tries to pull stick with 30lbs force he needs to impale his FSSB stick to his disk.
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Of course. Still, I thought the max force needed was only 25 lbs.
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I think that what you guys have said is most of the problem. Currently, I do not have a rock solid surface to mount it to, so I have the sensitivity up. Also, I have no idea what forces I’m applying. I need to get some weights/scales to try and measure the force for 100% deflection and go from there. I’m currently working on something in SketchUp to mount my HOTAS to. I’ll post it in my HOTAS Chair Mount thread now.