Suggestion for database, data supply
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And the F-15C FM change, if you want?;)
Cheers,
Tom
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All F-15 dat file have been uploaded weeks ago. AoA is limited to 20 deg, but maybe it should be 21 or 22. It is very easy to change the AoA, just open the file with any text edtior and change the value.
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Yes, all got the flare and AoA tweak. AIM-54s and AIM-7F dat file are available.
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can you also zip all the files you uploaded into 1 big db file so that i dont have to download all the different version with?
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Becuase stuff always updated if I upload today something it will be outdated in after next update.
Here is the pack.
http://www.mediafire.com/?rvu3mhzxirrrpt6 -
Becuase stuff always updated if I upload today something it will be outdated in after next update.
Here is the pack.
http://www.mediafire.com/?rvu3mhzxirrrpt6why not use dropbox, then you can share your files and update them on the fly in the dropbox cloud (2gb) free
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SA-2. (S-75 Volhov)
20DSzU V-755 missle performance
On X axis you can see the time after launch. On Y axis you can see two data. Distance from launch point - my guess calculated flight path distance from speed - and speed. For one test launch you can see two paramtric curves, one for speed and one for distance. The paramteri is Epsilon. Epslion means the constant angle which was hold by the missile during the measurement.
So, the test was conducted by this way. Missile was launched a certain angle and during the whole measured flight path missile hold this angle.
On the last diagram you can see the “available G”, it hould be mixed with upper diagrams to see in which speed range and alt how big G is possible more the missile.
–------------------------------------------------------Missile data
Weight of 1st stage: 1008 kg (2380 lb)
Weight of 2st stage: 1390 kg (3060 lb)
Weight of propellant in 2nd stage: 169,5 + 545 kg (1580 lb) TG02 fuel + AK-20 oxidyzerThe 1st (booster) stage accelerates the missle about 520-550 m/s regardless of circumstances.
1st stage burn time is 3 seconds.
2nd stage have two different program for engine thurst.
1. If Epsilon is small than 24° in the moment of launch the thrust is 3500 kg (~7720 lbs) for 45 seconds.
2. If Epsilon ε>=24 in the moment of launch thrust is 3500 kg (~7720 lbs) to 24 second then 2000 kg (~5510 lbs) to 55 seconds.
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Because Falcon is able to simulate only one thrust characterisic we have to select one. I will make a table with ranges and altitudes to determine which is the more typical Epsilon in Falcon’s world. This mean for validation only fro one Epsilon range can be correct… (Bigger 24 or smaller than 24 degrees.)
Other issue is the booster stage. Falcon cannot model the weight loss of 1st stage. Therefore missile weight have to be set only for 2nd stage and thrust of booster stage have to be set as way to get the ~550 m/s speed after 3 second. The more accurate modeling of second stage is the goal.
Epsilon depending on distance (land, projected distrance) and altitude.
Valu is 1 if Epsilon bigger than 24 degrees.
Epsilon typically is smaller than 24 degrees therefore 1st thrust model should be adopted.
Here is the table that I used.
http://www.mediafire.com/?akn2rnr69d3c6on–------------------------------------------------------
Plan for verification
What is the problem? Even for thest I have to make changes in SA-2’s dat file - to get the consant fligt path -to test its performance, I have to reproduce somehow the RL test. I have some ideas how can be done.
After these only patience skills are required to measure the effect of changes.
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we are going to a MolnyBMS which is supercool!!!
you are the man m8…QT
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and just like a noob…where should i unrar those qute .dat files??
QT
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Thanks Molny! I am too lazy and uninformed to research myself, but I trust you on those items, especially liked the missile drop behaviour you showed. Will check ingame.
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FYI the missile dropping before igniting is not always missile-specific. For example the AIM-120 does not drop when launched from an F-16, but it will drop when launched from the belly of an F-15. I think there was a thread on F-16.net about this.
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Thank you! I also like to check how AIM-7s will behave.
Cheers
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yeah same goes for the RAPTOR also…
QT
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FYI the missile dropping before igniting is not always missile-specific. For example the AIM-120 does not drop when launched from an F-16, but it will drop when launched from the belly of an F-15. I think there was a thread on F-16.net about this.
This is why I did not touch the AIM-120s. I cannot reacoll any AC which useas AIM-7s as rail method.
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@qt:
and just like a noob…where should i unrar those qute .dat files??
QT
Missile dat files to \data\sim\mistada.
Aircraft dat file to \data\sim\acdata(It was mentioned in #42, but the ‘data’ text missed from path, I fixed.)
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I cannot reacoll any AC which useas AIM-7s as rail method.
The F-16 does.
Again, its dependent on the launching platform, not the missile. Missiles do not need to drop from the F-16 because there is space to launch them straight off the rail.
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The F-16 does.
Again, its dependent on the launching platform, not the missile. Missiles do not need to drop from the F-16 because there is space to launch them straight off the rail.
Olny F-16ANGs could use, but from Falcon 4.0 aspect this does not count. In campaigns no one of F-16Cs carry AIM-7s in any scenario. I mean this way my commment. As I can remember ANG variant in DB but in campaign - for me - is useless.
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Simple Solution:
Add Copy in F4Browse,add weapon,add missile pointer,update .lst,add Rack.dat info,add weapon to AC,update ACdata and a few hundred other’s I forgot to mention……LOL
Doable…yes…if you take the time to do it right.
demer
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Simple Solution:
Add Copy in F4Browse,add weapon,add missile pointer,update .lst,add Rack.dat info,add weapon to AC,update ACdata and a few hundred other’s I forgot to mention……LOL
Doable…yes…if you take the time to do it right.
demer
I know. It can be defined different AIM-7s for different launch method. Only question how many entried (weapons) can be sacrificed for this purpose… I did exactly this with MolnyFalcon to get different versions of R-73 and got AIM-9S, AIM-9L and AIM-9M. Only a small LOD edit is required, the rest of stuff DB and text edit. With FF this edit is about 5 min.