Solved Throttle question
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i have a few questions:
Does this throttle means 100% full military power or 100% max afterburner?
Because in-game it goes all the way to max afterburner. is there a way to limit my throttle axis up to military power only? I wanted to only use my key for afterburning.If this is supposed to be max mil power only, what went wrong with my game?
(notes: using latest alternate launcher)edit: my throttle axis maxed already all the way up
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It means full AB. Falcon does not have a provision for activating the afterburner with a button, but you might be able to do it with Joystick Gremlin or the setup software of your HOTAS.
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I just got it to work with Joystick Gremlin. It’s a bit complicated, but possible.
What I did limits the virtual throttle to a certain point when not in AB mode. In AB mode, the throttle works normally and if you push it past that point, the afterburner will light. AB mode can be activated by pressing a button and left by pulling the trottle from the AB zone back to the non-AB zone (possible alternatives: pressing the same button again or pressing another button).
After yoiu selected AB mode, you need to move the throttle a bit to actually light the burner, as the virtual throttle will only update when you move the real throttle.
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@sungad thanks for the tips ill look into this app
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@firehawk7238 You also need vJoy to be able to use JG in a useful way.
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@sungad problem solved and you actually solved another problem for other game tysm
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@firehawk7238 Wait, you figured out how to do it in JG this fast?
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Joysick Gremlin is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
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@sungad yep, I searched yt guides, they said i need vjoy, gremlin and hidhide its actually pretty straightforward and powerful tools (only playing with remap and response curve so far). Even i managed to create throttle setup like warthunder (relative controls) and set my deadzone (old flight stick, lotsa unintended input). also if i may asked, i have this key assigned:
Right stick
TMS all axis
DMS all axis
CMS down
2nd trigger detent
pickle
NWS/MSL step
pinkyTQS:
Uncage
DF override
speedbrake
cursor zero
ANT elev (both)
Radar cursor all axisand i still have 2 leftover keys, any good recommendation for which fucntion?
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@firehawk7238 Definitely CMS up or left (or both).
Dump cursor zero (not a HOTAS function IRL) and map MRM instead. You might even be able to map one button to cycle middle/DF/MRM. You could think about mapping cursor enable, there are few situations where you need it, but when you need it, you need it on your HOTAS.
Also: Map the same button to both trigger detents. If you only map the second detent, the laser won’t stop firing when you lase manually.
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@firehawk7238 Just out of interest, how did you implement the virtual throttle detent?
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add response curve to your throttle axis (your main HOTAS/flightstick not the vjoy) and drag the top right dot to 50%.
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This will prevent BMS go full afterburner (since 50% is max mil power i think).
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Then add key as your Afterburner (there are 2 keybinds for min ab and max ab) or you can assign another axis to the same axis for throttle in vjoy.
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then add another response curve but bottom left dot goes to 50% and top right stays.
What im trying to say is youre assigning main throttle to get 0-50% of vjoy throttle axis then another axis for 50%-100% vjoy throttle axis. remember 0-50 = max mil pwr, 50-100 = AB like you said
sorry for late reply. just learned boresighting maverick
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oh and dont forget to utilize input viewer
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@firehawk7238 said in Throttle question:
prevent BMS go full afterburner (since 50% is max mil power i think).
Cool stuff!
I’m sure you know this but – set the AB detent position in the BMS in-game Setup screen.
Iirc the point which you define by clicking “set AB detent” is the max-MIL position (ie. AB is not lit yet) so it should work great with your solution
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@sungad said in Throttle question:
Dump cursor zero (not a HOTAS function IRL)
It kinda is tho (double-tap TMS-down) … I think Mav or someone else on the dev team mentioned implementing that for a future release. In meantime, it could probably be emulated with JG or Autohotkey or similar…
But I agree cursor-enable is probably higher priority for HOTAS, if you like dogfighting with HOB missiles.
Map the same button to both trigger detents.
wait wat … you can map a single button to multiple callbacks? does that only work with trigger, or in general? I had no idea
seems like there are a few potential things, that only have effect in distinct contexts, that could share a button… like Wheelbrakes and the Paddle-switch
or things that you almost always want to do simultaneously, like reset-fov and reset-trackir
will have to play around with this… [edit: I can’t get this to work in the general case. maybe it’s special-case code for the triggers?]
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@firehawk7238 said in Throttle question:
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and i still have 2 leftover keys, any good recommendation for which fucntion?My 2 cents…
COMMS UHF and COMMS VHF
If you are always flying offline/singleplayer and don’t use IVC, then:
TRIM Reset
CURSOR Enable(by the way, which HOTAS do you have?)
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@semlerpdx i wouldn’t say its HOTAS, you could say it poor man HOTAS.
Im using Extreme 3D pro for:- elevator, aileron (Z axis unused, too much accidental input)
- hat switch for looking all 4 ways
- trigger and thumb for pickle and 2nd detent
- buttons below hat switch for all TMS axis
- slider for toe brake axis
- off hand button
then im using (wait for it) cheap USB gamepad for my Throttle section:
- L analog for throttle (up down with relative control, WarThunder style) and yaw. Button for CMS up
- R analog for cursor axis (button for cursor enable)
- pov button for override button (MRM, DF, and reset) and airbrake
- ABXY for DMS axis
- other buttons for NWS/step, uncage, and antenna elev
both configured into a single joystick with joystick gremlin + vjoy.
sure it look and sounds stupid but it works and i feel comfy using it
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@firehawk7238 Just a few years back, I was in the same boat as you…
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@firehawk7238 Awesome - ingenuity pays off well in BMS!
That’s the stick I started with, too!! But I had a Nostromo GamePad as my alternate control. Soon after, bought some of those Thrustmaster MFD’s, and eventually got my hands on a Saitek X52 (non-pro)… lasted for nearly 8 years. Nostromo replaced by Razer Tartarus and replaced the broken X52 with the pro model, wallet still sore cuz I was too impatient to wait for a sale on that ~$200 HOTAS.Best wishes and study hard, it’s worth it!!
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@firehawk7238 said in Throttle question:
L analog for throttle (up down with relative control, WarThunder style)
Is this something made possible by Joystick Gremlin + vJoy?