BMS Crashes after time spent in flight - Memory Usage warning appears moments before crash - Memory Leak issue?
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@white_fang I have been using intelligent standby list cleaner on my laptop for various games and programmes which clears standby memory and can be set up to run automatically . I do not know if this would help with the crashes but it is worth a try.
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Just to let you know that I’m having almost same problem while refueling in TE. I was curious to watch F-18 in refueling so I add a flight of four of them and timed to refuel when I was there with my flight of 2 F-16. I run an i7 w7 16GB ram. I try to attach a picture I’ve done.
Many thanks!!
No I can’t but blue line says:
RAM: 15,9 GB / 15,9 GB ( 100% ) - 45 MB free
Process: 30.0 GB / 8 TB ( 0% ) - 8 TB free
Pagefile: 21,6 GB / 31,9 GB ( 60% ) - 10,3 GB free
Texture: apx 0 MB free
No CTD, some light stuttering.
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@Paulg-0 I’ve had/have same thing in previous century - when I had a P3-300/1GB computer … just learned to do it manually,… no need for 3rd party app , you can do it with windows batch/script alone.
Like I’ve said in this post 14 days ago. (housekeeping)
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/post/347320@Gancio … have you miss a thread maybe my friend , what you want to say ?
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@Gancio … have you miss a thread maybe my friend , what you want to say ?
Just that same happe to me but I have 16 GB ram and not just 8GB…. Maybe it’s not a problem related to a ram quantity……
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@Gancio Hmmm… what happened to you exactly… , Blue-Screen crash ??
While looking, you also have “double the ram” pagefile … 16GB vs 32GB.
Process 30GB … are you using some hi-texture mods or models… eg JanHas ?What video-card / how much of Vram ?
I also have basket-refueling practice TE (in Balkans) with …48 planes in the air … F16/F18/Av8b… 3 carriers fleet , 5-6 tankers.
And no such thing happening … I have 32GB ram and 8GB Vram.
Pagefile is manually at fixed 4GB.Ok , I’ll try with diag window data… to see myself. Maybe your problem really lies in VRAM/RAM/Pagefile/Windows - minimum specs.
I’m not defending BMS as my house-kennel , but to me it is NOT happening… so that’s the difference… and is not easy to see from your perspective.Maybe the devs can try to force limit windows to 8GB or 16GB and see what is really going on … but if they say MINIMUM-SPECS then everything else is speculation and/or your ow responsibility… not that not gonna help , but just can’t do much.
Cheers
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@white_fang
Hi, no, not having a CTD or blue screen, just a little, very little stuttering while those alarm appeared.
My system is W7Ultimate i7-4770K [email protected] GHz
3.50 GHz
RAM 16 GB
nVidia GeForce GTS 450 x 2 MFDs
nVidia GeForce GTX980 main screen
VRam paging 16326 MB ( never touched )
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@Gancio Here, can’t help it … really large image. 4k.
But you can see memory footprint , if zoom enough - inside “Red Square”
BMS/windows “reserves” (cache) 25GB total of windows virtual memory , stable … the number is NOT increasing … you can’t see on the picture obviously.
Process alone is ~6.5GB , 4GB of Vram.
I never saw that “blue-mem” screen … probably for the better
So even your 16GB is sufficient but on verge when windows decides to cache all the stuff… pagefile gets filled.
Maybe you should all try to force windows to somehow be more reserved with memory allocation … there are ways for sure… but that probably means (w)hacking the registry.
- Wait a mi…Texture (i guess vram) = 0 free ???
That’s your video ram , not system… Nvidia… come out to playieee
Could it be Nvidia’s driver leak?? (I have ati)
Again , did you import any other 3rd party other mods in 3ddb database, eg JanHas ultra-high-res … etc??
You have 16GB of Vram - it is impossible that it gets filled with default bms graphics …
- Wait a mi…Texture (i guess vram) = 0 free ???
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Guys Gancio says it has a gtx980 which has 4GB of Vram.
Where does the 16GB Vram comes from? -
his post above. - but you’re right , that’s probably “shared” or ?? (never saw that crazy amount 12GB shared… something doesn’t add up)
https://forum.falcon-bms.com/post/348333
“VRam paging 16326 MB ( never touched )”
and his blue-mem screen says
Texture: apx 0 MB free
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shared
The way this works, in a nutshell… Windows “soft reserves” 50% of system ram to use as supplemental video-ram.
So eg. for a system with 16 Gb system ram + 4 Gb video ram, Windows will “lie” and tell games that there is (4+16/2 == 12 Gb) of video-ram available.
That doesn’t mean your system ram is actually cut in half … if no games are apps are using any of that ram, it remains 100% available for programs.
Even when it is used by games, to load textures … it can still be used as normal system ram – but paging (swapping) will occur whenever the game needs to access those textures (or vice versa – when other programs need to access those ram pages)
I suppose this is a good caveat to my advice above, to get rid of pagefile. If on a laptop or system with limited video-ram… have enough pagefile to back 50% of your physical ram.
Although maybe prefer game to crash, vs thrashing the pagefile with every frame…
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Plan BMS….I run 4.36 without any 3D party. It’s happened in Balkans theater. As I said I play in a full cockpit. MFDs are droven by GeForce 450 through FTT. Other displays are droven directly from shared mem. Never saw that alarm before and, for the moment, showed up only while I was in refueling with F18.
Don’t know if can help: in another session, in the same situation, no display alarm but the first F18 remain in precontact position in right station without refueling. Tomorrow I will retry the TE. Wil see.
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@Gancio No prob mate. I fly that theater too , very much, more then KTO.
So I will keep my eye on that… F18 - refuelling…Eh, but which of F18 ??? Yeah, there are few …
A - F, Spain-C, Canada-C , or “Growler EA18-G” or RAAF Growler ???Who says BMS is only F16 sim, should be hanged
I already fly F18C and F18E and did basket learning … can do it, but tanker turns are still a problem …
So far did not see any problems with those 2 - … I have 32GB of ram… (that’s what @airtex2019 is sayin, more ram , more shared ram)
Will try with with more flights in refueling queue… eg, 3x4 or 4x4, mixed C’s and E’s
P.s. Will YOU FINALLY admit it…, DID YOU MESS with skins or models , in the end, I’m asking for the 3rd time ???
@airtex2019 … Yes , Correct. That’s the thing with win10/11.
That is already “suggested” (me) that it may come to (shared) video-ram paging … but that would be crazy.Still, windows selects the fastest drive for pagefile,… not without a reason… but, just don’t know. - need to read. - and then is the question of “implementation quality”… eh, per design.
You see in my specs (pic above) , that only 1/2 (4GB) of my video ram is used … 3.5GB correctly., reported by Ati software.
There is still that much + win shared video from system (haven’t check the use at the time BMS running)… but WILL next time… I almost forgot about that.
So even @Gancio 4GB card shouldn’t be “depleted” … texmem = 0.
Yeah - this stinks like the leak or starvation… but is just not happening everywhere… there (was) can be “porked model” case , causing the leak in the past… so , stay tuned -
Reading all around, I’ve found , The ONLY way to control shared-video-ram is by BIOS.
And that is a bummer, as if you don’t have that option somewhere in “Advanced” settings portion of bios…, eg, I don’t have that option in AMI bios from 2013.
So it is NOT in the end Windows10/11 function , it is by motherboard design… hence Bios.
Somewhere you can control it , like … out of “Auto” … but, somewhere option is hidden/locked …
In that case…- buy more RAM
- change graphics card, with at least 8/16GB
- edit , customize Bios and enable that option - hee hee , … but I did it with my bios , for different purposes, but yes , I have MY customized bios in motherboard , cpu microcode(s) and enabling pcie-x bifurcation for halving picex slot x8 = x4 x4 , for nvme drive, which was also hidden menu
meh… all this troubles
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@white_fang said in BMS Crashes after time spent in flight - Memory Usage warning appears moments before crash - Memory Leak issue?:
@Gancio No prob mate. I fly that theater too , very much, more then KTO.
So I will keep my eye on that… F18 - refuelling…Eh, but which of F18 ??? Yeah, there are few …
A - F, Spain-C, Canada-C , or “Growler EA18-G” or RAAF Growler ???Who says BMS is only F16 sim, should be hanged
I already fly F18C and F18E and did basket learning … can do it, but tanker turns are still a problem …
So far did not see any problems with those 2 - … I have 32GB of ram… (that’s what @airtex2019 is sayin, more ram , more shared ram)
Will try with with more flights in refueling queue… eg, 3x4 or 4x4, mixed C’s and E’s
P.s. Will YOU FINALLY admit it…, DID YOU MESS with skins or models , in the end, I’m asking for the 3rd time ???
Uh? No I didn’t mess with Skin or models. I’m using the default package. In this way I see a lot ( for me and my system ) of FPS. Using external MFDs and all the devices for tbe cockpit I decided to remain with the original ( 3D models ) stuff.
Today I repeat two time the same situation, 2 hours mission, Same refueling cue: me 2 F16, 4 F18 C and 2 F15E. Nothing shows up. Smooth like silk….I will try again next monday……seems it’s been an occasional issue…
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@Gancio Ok, thanks. That is good, as then we have same database, same theater.
TE’s and experiences should be interchangeable.As there are no “default” TE’s in Balkans, so if you notice something in your TE … doesn’t mean that it will be reproducible at all in TE I created.
Campaign files are even worse, animal of its own., no theoretical way to have 2 same files. Blame (Bless ) BMS/F4 vu2 , dynamic campaign for that
If you notice blue-mem again , just send the TE… we’ll see.
Cheers, Good luck sir
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@white_fang
I will do. Sooner or later I will double my 16 Ram for a 32 GB. Many thanks.