F-15 Interior Lighting
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“Warning/caution/advisory lights provide visual
indication of normal aircraft operation and
malfunction. Warning lights are red and are located at
or near top of instrument panel. Lit warning lights
indicate malfunctions that require immediate
corrective action. Caution lights are yellow, and when
lit indicate a malfunction requiring attention but not
immediate action. Advisory lights are aviation green
or white, and indicate safe or normal conditions.”More specifically, it’s known as aviation yellow. Literally follows a standard. That’s straight from the books. Do whatever you want. Again, not gonna expend energy arguing with folks. See what you want to see. Don’t really care that much TBH. Was going to help…not any longer.
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@Rainmaker are you sure we talking the same version of f-15C ?
the model that I replicated in BMS is the IAF’s F-15C Eagle, and from the few informations I’ve found a significant difference (for 3d modeling) is between the structures of the HUD projector… I researched even more, and found out that we are both right… the US F15A/C has yellow warning lights, ok… The Isrealian F-15C was built strictly as an air superiority fighter, but the IAF’s created an extreme capable fighter bomber version, which the US dubbed the F15E Strike Eagle when they followed suite… … in the USAF F15E strike eagle, warning lights are amber, so it is very likely that they are the same as those inplemented in the Israeli model… but I have not been able to find reliable sources… so we can accept them as amber (but not red) lights for sure
IAF F15C armament: (NOTE: we still need to implemented this aspect in BMS)
Armament: One M61A1 20mm six barrel cannon, with up to 4 AIM-7 Sparrow and 4 AIM-9 Sidewinder / Python 3/4 air-to-air missiles, or 8 AMRAAMs. Five weapon stations for up to 10705kg of bombs, rockets and air-to-surface missiles. -
The Strike Eagles lights are the same. They are aviation yellow, which is an off-shade that makes them a darker yellow in color. They use the same light components across the board as the C. When you see the reddish color mixed in, that is due to aging of the lens cover. The lights are also on a variable transformer, which means the coil doesn’t glow as brightly if the lights are either in a ‘dim’ mode setting, turned down from full bright, or both.
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@Rainmaker please Rainmaker… try to read an F15E Strike Eagle’s manual before…
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@qawa said in F-15 Interior Lighting:
@Rainmaker please Rainmaker… try to read an F15E Strike Eagle’s manual before…
I worked the E model for almost 20 years. You think I need a manual to tell me these things? Again, this is why I’m done here. I tried to offer, but I’m not putting forth any more effort to justify things. I’m out. Keep it incorrect if you like.
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@Rainmaker said in F-15 Interior Lighting:
I worked the E model for almost 20 years. You think I need a manual to tell me these things? Again, this is why I’m done here. I tried to offer, but I’m not putting forth any more effort to justify things. I’m out. Keep it incorrect if you like.
HEY… don’t take it the wrong way…I thanked you for that…but you have to understand that for me it was essential to document myself by buying flight manuals…and that’s where I found a lot of information on how to build the cockpit. Don’t be offended, I respect the work you have done, for sure !!!
But you try to understand that it is not easy to please everyone … everyone has their own information to share, as you did …and also within the BMS team
Thank you again, and sorry if I offended you in any way, it was not my intention
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@Rainmaker Qawa and I are trying to understand the correct tone depending on the platform and every post you are writing you are not loosing time with us. This sounds very arrogant and unpolite.
Since your first post , 3 devs looked into it, instead of continuing deving or coding U4, because we care if it is correct.But your information is inconsistent/unclear: Sometimes you write you have you “played …for a number of years IRL”, then you wrote you “Have only looked at videos/screenshots”, then suddenly you write you “worked the E model for almost 20 years”. How many “expert” opinions do we get in the forum every week ? We check and cross-check, and challenge every info before we know it can be trusted and implemented. That is how we dev things.
I already wrote that we found evidence that red is indeed wrong. But yellow is not correct either. I also wrote at the first posts that aging plays a role for the F-16 and you finally confirmed now that for F-15 also plays a role.
The lights were “yellow” in 70s, which should read “amber”. With time, this color got more red in pics of 2000s, like the F-16 pits getting from green to yellow as time passes. That is why there are plenty of fotos with “not-yellow”-> more amber->redish caution lights. -
Maybe we should ask a woman, they know more about colors…for me turquoise blue is green, and topaz green is blue.
Just a little humor, let’s keep the peace, we all want the best for BMS
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@tiag said in F-15 Interior Lighting:
@Rainmaker Qawa and I are trying to understand the correct tone depending on the platform and every post you are writing you are not loosing time with us. This sounds very arrogant and unpolite.
Since your first post , 3 devs looked into it, instead of continuing deving or coding U4, because we care if it is correct.But your information is inconsistent/unclear: Sometimes you write you have you “played …for a number of years IRL”, then you wrote you “Have only looked at videos/screenshots”, then suddenly you write you “worked the E model for almost 20 years”. How many “expert” opinions do we get in the forum every week ? We check and cross-check, and challenge every info before we know it can be trusted and implemented. That is how we dev things.
I already wrote that we found evidence that red is indeed wrong. But yellow is not correct either. I also wrote at the first posts that aging plays a role for the F-16 and you finally confirmed now that for F-15 also plays a role.
The lights were “yellow” in 70s, which should read “amber”. With time, this color got more red in pics of 2000s, like the F-16 pits getting from green to yellow as time passes. That is why there are plenty of fotos with “not-yellow”-> more amber->redish caution lights.What? ‘Played’ with it was referring to the same thing as working. Worked equals RL. There was no inconsistency there. Stop that.
No, what the response was that basically, go look at the manual because even though we have no actual experience with the aircraft, you most certainly are mistaken. ‘Read a manual’ and ‘waste of time’ stick out here. Yes, time has been wasted apparently, by me. And somehow I keep letting myself get sucked back in here.
No, things did not ‘change’. I already described to you in the previous post what happens with them and why they may appear off-shade. This is precisely why the EX, foreign varients, etc, still have the same standard. I literally posted you text from a RL manual showing the words ‘yellow’. That is not by mistake. Amber is not used for good reason. But again…have a good one.
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FROM YOUR FIRST POST
Here’s a ref photo of the interior lighting colors. As you can see, the caution/warning panel lighting is yellow vs the red, etc.
we have looked at hundred of photos… not only one…and read a lot of manuals and info’s … I don’t judge you, but you have a really presumptuous and know-it-all way of conducting conversations… perhaps you will find other F15 cockpits graphically respectful of your judgment… now it’s me say to you an honest and sincere CIAO !!!
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I’m putting the point on the i:
Speaking about colors what we see on monitors, but how many of us have color calibrated monitors with proper RGB coverage?Don’t take it serious, just kidding
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@hiuuz yes !!! thank you hiuzz
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@qawa Just for be sure, I have tried, but I didn’t want to push further with a 3rd question (see the comments)
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For the Master Caution Panels lights, I’ve definitely taken this direction.
Thanks to the cooperation and contribution from the “F15C Simproject” !!!