Significant FPS loss with integrated cockpit extractor, but not Lightening MFDE
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Hi,
This one has me a little stumped. I’m still struggling getting lightenings MFDE to work (its extremely slow to respond), and have tried the integrated extractor tool as an alternative.
What I’ve noticed is that fps loss with just a single MFD extracted to 2nd monitor is far larger, than with 2 mfds and a few gauges on lightening mfde.
The former is unplayable - practically a slide show. I haven’t changed any settings between switching, and I have a gtx760.From what I’ve read around here, the integrated tool should actually suffer from less fps loss than the 3PP.
Is there something obvious that I may have overlooked with the integrated extraction tool?
Thanks
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Hi there.
I am using 3 monitors. One for the main sim, one to extract the MFDs, HUD, RWR, DEDs with the other monitor for windows apps.
(windows 7 64bit)
Gfx Card 980 with latest drivers.
I updated them yesterday and will check tonight if i get any better performance. However at the moment (my last flight before the updated drivers), my 2nd monitor (where the integrated extracted displays the MFDs etc) is flickering.
Also, im not sure why, but my main monitor seems stuck on windows mode.
I haven’t told it to be. ie. no -window tag on the shortcut. I couldnt find anything in the config file.
Its a quick post with me needing some more time to play around with it. As with anything new, i scramble through things because I wanna get in and fly!! lol…
But i too have noticed quite a performance hit. Its playable - not sure what im getting. it feels around the low 20s fps at times. Ok when I am up high.
Its a thread i’m interested in and i think it might be down to our Nvidia drivers.
The sim so far has blown me away. The guys have done a sterling job. Lots new to learn.
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I just did a quick check last night using a custom TE with some AI traffic at Kimpo, and using the 32 bit version I get around 14fps on the ground and around 30 (haven’t seen more than 35) after TO.
I’ll try the 64bit version next and some optimizations pointed out here.
Cheers, Uwe
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I believe the 64 bit version will give you more. If you have 64 bit version of windows that is.
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Also. If your interested in fps boosts there’s a thread already here
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?23536-Massive-FPS-Loss
This particular thread here is more for the cockpit extraction although closely related I guess.
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@Cpt:
Also. If your interested in fps boosts there’s a thread already here
https://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/showthread.php?23536-Massive-FPS-Loss
This particular thread here is more for the cockpit extraction although closely related I guess.
Thanks for your input.
My concern is particularly why the FPS hit is so significant on the integrated cockpit extractor tool, while Lightning’s MFDE seems to have much less of an impact. I recall reading somewhere that the integrated extractor should be 1 or 2 FPS more efficient than an external tool.At present I have to wait around 5 min for Lightening’s MDFE to start up (and another 5 if I want to get to the options menu), but once it is running frame rates are pretty decent in cockpit with most sliders set high - boosting the FPS will help, but I have a feeling something else needs to be addressed.
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It would be helpful to have your full PC specs, including which version of Windows you are using when posting any issues you are having.
1. MFDE should not be taking any time at all to initialise, which I’m sure you know already. There must be something on your system which is causing this; experiment with a vanilla/stock install by unplugging peripherals and shutting down other programs to see if you can work out what. Try running as administrator and checking some of the other threads (search for MFDE).
2. NVIDIA cards will see more of a reduction in FPS when using BMS Extraction Tools than the 1-2 fps drop you’ll see typically with newer AMD cards. Usually the workaround is to use MFDE (in full screen mode if the fps drop is too much), which does work properly (on most systems) with 4.33, even for MFDs (no flickering anymore).
3. If you are using BMS Extraction you will be running in Windowed mode. Please have a look at the BMS Manual p51 (or search for extraction):
A limitation to this feature is that the main 3D window cannot be full-screen. However the Main window
setting is also set through the application and the user can un-click Borders to disable borders for the main
Falcon screen if you run in windowed mode. This makes the main view appear to take up the entire display.I fully understand you’re keen to fly; this sim is so complex however that there really is no substitute for getting your head in the manuals
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Nice one.
Yes… your right. Got my head stuck in the manuals now! I only installed yesterday.Interesting that with 4.32 your main display was full and on this version is in windowed mode.
Wonder what changed in the coding. Just curious not a complaint. I certainly need to tinker and cross reference with the manual.
Might look into this mfde too.
Dam working full time gets in the way!
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Hi,
This one has me a little stumped. I’m still struggling getting lightenings MFDE to work (its extremely slow to respond), and have tried the integrated extractor tool as an alternative.
What I’ve noticed is that fps loss with just a single MFD extracted to 2nd monitor is far larger, than with 2 mfds and a few gauges on lightening mfde.
The former is unplayable - practically a slide show. I haven’t changed any settings between switching, and I have a gtx760.From what I’ve read around here, the integrated tool should actually suffer from less fps loss than the 3PP.
Is there something obvious that I may have overlooked with the integrated extraction tool?
Thanks
Have you tried GPT extraction tool? You can run BMS in fullscreen mode and yet have an extraction tool that, when it comes to MFD extraction, runs waaaay smoother than MFDE.
In fact, they are fully compatible and even complementary, I would say.
I for one use :
1-GPT displays extraction tool to extract the displays to a secondary PC and
2-GPT key repeater tool to send keystrokes from controllers attached to the secondary PC to BMS on the primary PC.
3-MFDE to extract the several gauges and send them to the secondary PC