Project X55 GERMANY (Mod)
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Seems same plastic material as X52. No improvement.
Whereas the sensoric is AWESOME and very precise (16bit and 4096 pixel per axis) the STOCK mechanics in the STICK is indeed “toy grade” plastic cast.
Very poor design for that class of a HOTAS imo. -
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First precission-test with new mod: (used software = Foxy´s Analyzer)
Download ANALYZER here: http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download.php?id=4020
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A.S., can you, or any other X-55 owners tell me if the HOTAS has any spiking or jitters like the X-52?
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No… as it has hall magnet sensoric (is a ueber acurate one tbh).
“Spiking” doesn´t exist as there is not contact thus no wear on the sensor(s).The concept of the stick (stock) is millimetric planed …the problem is the non-so millimetric acurate production quality, meaning that the magent holding “hat” (as seen in picture below) is only pushed over the shaft and due to resistance by the cables (if moving) it sometimes shakes resulting in an off-center phenomon. I noticed it the first time as i opened the HUD software and released the stick back to middle but the “cross” was not centered.
THAT is the problem on the stock. One can compensate that easily with deadzones…but thats not the goal, is it?Picture: https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1012x759q90/546/2ct1.jpg
For normal conventional operation the stick is “ok”. Deeper look reveals poor quality in the gimbals though.
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@A.S:
I would have to pre-buy all components, prepare them and include an instruction how to replace the stock (+ concrete glue, washers, custrom spacer blocks and other materials required etc. etc.) and then evaluate the whole mod (plus labor) … and make a reasonable pricing for it (considering shipping aswell).
Keep in mind, that all parts (including gimbals) are custom made or modified in order to make everything match so nicely without ruining anything on the stick itself (the plastic-cast).
I could do that, but no promises made at this point as i have to calculate if that is even worth it for you not for me, because i already spent 200 eur just on the modifications and all the parts required. I didn´t think, that it will be that much, but little things summed up.
If i decide to do so, i will definitly be a helping hand in the construction (guidance).
I’d even visit you and pick 'em up personally, as long as you don’t live in Barbar… sorry, Bavaria.
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I’d even visit you and pick 'em up personally, as long as you don’t live in Barbar… sorry, Bavaria.
Let me finish this thing…and then i try to make a pricing with reasonable suppliers or parts.
Currently i´m using (as you are from germany too): Igus.de, online-schrauben.de, prokilo.de, sodemann-federn.de, voelkner.de and rcengineering.de (the only one (cool guy) who has or is willing to make custom gimabals for me with CNC if need more). Stick itself was from Gameshark.PS: Indeed, i do live in the BARBARS Franken-lands
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Pre alpha test model (fly-able).
A more sophisticated spring-center-system will follow: (bump - cancelled as it is good as it is) -
love all this work, and i also find it somewhat humorous, considering my preorder hasnt even shipped yet
might take a crack at it myself one day, since i have CNC access
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Since it has space on the outside why don’t u put force sensors there with no springs and real stick movement?
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I am not a fan for force-sensors and non-moving sticks. (I fly not only BMS …i fly “everythng” so to speak).
But just out of curiosity…what exactly do you mean Arty?
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Dude, you are really putting in work on this stick!! How’s this mod handling for you?? Looks like something I might be interested in doing.
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First i had too strong srpings…then too light ones… now its amazing… the flying is incredible accurate in the feel… and i dont want to be the guy infront of my guns tbh
I always analyzed sticks in the past years (maybe too much lol)… understanding WHY they feel how they feel and why they perfom how they perform… after all those years i just
wanted to make my own thing finally (headaches included, but it was worth it). Well, after realising that the stock x55 was horrible infact… would have prefered not to mod anything.The only problem (if it is one) is if one pulls the stick and releases it, the stick will vibrate (swing) around the center as there is not mechanical stopping point for the same.
I already have an idea how to solve this…wip atm.The good part is the centering of the stick can be done mechanically (trimm wheels) AND with the new CALIBRATION feature of the new software, so even if the stick is not dead-on
center…once calibrated it will be including proper distributions of the bands in all directions.
It took me a second to get used to it (before x52pro) …now i see the benefits …The biggest difference i can tell in gunnery (especially IL-2) and in holding dead precise desired Gs in turns in the F-16.
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So, any update on this?
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Nope… last picture you see (above) is how i left it as it behaves excellent as is. What i like most about it is that, it is smooth around the “middle” and becomes “stiffer” the wider you pull it (due to the nature of springs). And the x-55 calibration software makes it a “click-play” to center everything dead-on.
The parts required for the mod (without labor) are about 150 eur total.
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350 total when a worthog is 400? hmmm makes u wonder.
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You wonder alot i noticed.
Warthog “sucks” imo. and i doubt it can do this:
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Cougar can… there r posts in the forum with it long time ago… since they share the same stick then its the same thing… also saitek is using cougars software or I’m mistaken here?
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Downlaod Foxy´s Joystick Analyzer or Joytester2.exe from google and try your own stick (both are graphic-supported joystick test programs).
(no its not using same software)
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Hey A.S. In case you happen to create a more or less detailed instruction manual for this mod with all the needed parts, I’m up to buy it from you :D. A good idea might also be to sell the whole mod kit in a package and including man/h + shipping in the price.