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    • airtex2019
      airtex2019 @Seifer last edited by airtex2019

      @seifer Presumably the same C++ destructor code gets invoked the first time … then again the second time … your bp will hit both times, and you’ll see the call stack for both.

      This simple approach may not be viable for instances of a class that come and go hundreds of times per session… but maybe (?) for something like a popup menu, it might be practical. (I didn’t actually try setting a bp there, so not sure.)

      For classes that are instantiated/destroyed much more frequently… the only trick I know is to log the call-stack (along with the ‘this’ pointer) from the dtor code … which can allow you to do postmortem analysis… to search backward and find the specific dtor call for that specific instance that’s being double-freed.

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      • Jackal
        Jackal last edited by

        Guys… I’ am impressed. And speechless too.
        So, as seems, my sad skill in finding out weird and well hidden issues stroke back.
        Can’t tell you how happy am I (please understand all on the contrary).

        Thanks a huge lot for all you are doing for me.

        With best regards.

        "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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        • Jackal
          Jackal @airtex2019 last edited by Jackal

          @airtex2019 said in Windows 11 Pro - exiting from a mission leads to crash.:

          @Jackal

          What are all the add-ons and mods you have installed … eg. other theathers? any VR stuff? alt launcher? mrkline’s mod to speed up acmi encoding? etc

          To me this looks like a double-free bug in BMS, at the point where the popup menu is dismissed … but I don’t know why nobody else is hitting this, or why it would be different on Win10 vs Win11.

          Do you run in fullscreen-mode or borderless-window mode?

          Hi, dearest Airtex.

          So here I am with my poor answers.
          Yes, I have installed a few thaters (Balkans, Aegean, Mideast128, Nevada, Korea Training and HeliPack).
          Yes, I use that acmi enconding facility in those few case I need an Acmi (not too much often, actually).
          No, I don’t use VR (too early, I’m waiting for 4.37 or whenever it will fully developed and embedded) nor alternative launcher - I am running Falcon via its stock one.
          I set BMS in borderless mode, 1920x1080 res., without triple buffering or vertical sync selected from the graphic menu… I left all these to my nVidia settings facility matter, becasue I applied those suggestions you made in a specific thread some months ago - remember?

          Hope I helped you a few, sorry but I really can’t do more on my little own.

          Thanks a huge lot to you too and with best regards.

          "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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          • Kevstosmart
            Kevstosmart last edited by

            I’ve been following this since I’ve been using windows 11 pro. 10850k and a 3080.

            With the amount of tinkering and editing I do to the database and acdata editing I do. I’ve YET to get a CTD. Knock on wood. Im not saying it’s your hardware but something’s acting up

            Intel Core i9-18500K (5.2 GHz) / EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB / 64GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz / Samsung NVME Plus 1tb / 500gb nvme OS

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            • airtex2019
              airtex2019 @Jackal last edited by

              @jackal said in Windows 11 Pro - exiting from a mission leads to crash.:

              Yes, I use that acmi enconding facility in those few case I need an Acmi (not too much often, actually).

              Just to be clear – I am asking, did you install and enable this mod?
              https://github.com/mrkline/flt2vhs

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              • airtex2019
                airtex2019 @Kevstosmart last edited by

                @kevstosmart said in Windows 11 Pro - exiting from a mission leads to crash.:

                Knock on wood. Im not saying it’s your hardware but something’s acting up

                Yeah it’s an interesting little mystery. Double-free seems like an actual code-bug in BMS but I have no explanation for why nobody else is hitting it … or why it would maybe be different on Win10 vs Win11.

                Could be timing related…

                @Jackal can you try enabling vertical-sync (within the game) and see if that makes any difference.

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                • Jackal
                  Jackal @airtex2019 last edited by Jackal

                  @airtex2019
                  No, dear mate.
                  I didn’t.
                  I’m currently using that other one I told you before, and at those limited conditions I referred only - starting it before launching BMS and keeping it running in background, but that only in those not frequent cases I need to get an ACMI of that flight/mission I’m specifically interested.

                  And I also enabled, for testing, the vertical sync option - try to guess how it ended?

                  Hope this helped in anything, maybe.

                  With best regards.

                  "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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                  • airtex2019
                    airtex2019 @Jackal last edited by

                    @jackal said in Windows 11 Pro - exiting from a mission leads to crash.:

                    And I also enabled, for testing, the vertical sync option - try to guess how it ended?

                    I really don’t know! I take that it did not help…

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                    • Jackal
                      Jackal last edited by

                      @airtex2019
                      Don’t worry, bro.
                      There must be a reason for what’s happening, and it will have to be found out. It’s only a matter of time and a little of luck, of course.

                      Thanks a lot for your time and your efforts, most of all!

                      With best regards.

                      "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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                      • malpaso
                        malpaso @Jackal last edited by

                        Hello, Jackal, how are you?
                        You could have waited a while before upgrading to Windows 11 my friend!
                        Stay safe and stay tuned!
                        malpaso🖖

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                        • Seifer
                          Seifer last edited by

                          Jackal, any chance you modified the menu file (art\ckptart\menu.dat)? Are you using any custom cockpit?

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                          • WurminatorZA
                            WurminatorZA last edited by

                            @Jackal go to BMS bin folder and BMS exe, right click on it, go to compatibility and disable full screen optimizations and see if that works

                            Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X; Gigabyte AORUS X470 Ultra Gaming; 32GB 3466Mhz CL16 DDR4; XFX RX 6700XT QICK 319 Black Edition; AOC CQ27G2 27" 1440p 144Hz Curved; 512GB Hikvision E2000 NVMe, 1TB Hikvision E3000 NVMe, 1TB Western Digital Blue SSD, 20TB Storage, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
                            Flight Peripherals: 3D printed infrared track clip; CH Fighterstick + TWCS Throttle + MFG Crosswind V2 + Custom made switch/toggle panels using Arduino; PS3 eyecam modified

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                            • Jackal
                              Jackal last edited by Jackal

                              Thanks a lot, dear friends, for all your kind answers and suggestions.
                              A cumulative reply is needed, I guess.
                              @Seifer: thanks a lot, but no, I didn’t. Neither installed any custom cockpit this time - I did when in Windows 10, instead, it was that awesone one by @dema.
                              And I have to point out, at this point, that I have been able to do any kind of crazy things, at those times. What the hell happened, this time? All seemed to work fine just after the last install. Bah.
                              @WurminatorZA: thanks a lot to you too, but no, mate. And why should I have done that? I never flagged that voice after any of my all BMS past installations, by the way, because I never felt the need to.
                              @malpaso: hi there, dearest bro. Long time no… read. 😆
                              Try to guess what I am currently thinking about 11 and my smart choice of installing it… but please think well after answering, it’s a hard matter to be conceived carefully before, 🤣

                              Thanks a lot for your interest, and with best regards.

                              "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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                              • freedomlike
                                freedomlike last edited by

                                I believe the only windows really working fine, it was Windows XP

                                I love to fly Falcon 4 here

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                                • WurminatorZA
                                  WurminatorZA @freedomlike last edited by

                                  @Jackal but did you try it?

                                  Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X; Gigabyte AORUS X470 Ultra Gaming; 32GB 3466Mhz CL16 DDR4; XFX RX 6700XT QICK 319 Black Edition; AOC CQ27G2 27" 1440p 144Hz Curved; 512GB Hikvision E2000 NVMe, 1TB Hikvision E3000 NVMe, 1TB Western Digital Blue SSD, 20TB Storage, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
                                  Flight Peripherals: 3D printed infrared track clip; CH Fighterstick + TWCS Throttle + MFG Crosswind V2 + Custom made switch/toggle panels using Arduino; PS3 eyecam modified

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                                  • Jackal
                                    Jackal @WurminatorZA last edited by Jackal

                                    @wurminatorza
                                    Sure, of course. But without any luck. Thanks again for your interest.

                                    To all.
                                    Guess that something went corrupted in that specific part of instructions in my installation, because all the remaining options and commands seemed working fine.

                                    So, after the last Windows cumulative update occurred yesterday, I decided to attempt the last try.
                                    I have wiped out all the stuff and reinstalled Falcon and my favourite theaters from scratch.
                                    If all will work fine, so nice then and we will be happy for that.
                                    But if not, I won’t take care of it anymore, and hell to that.

                                    I will keep you informed further.

                                    With best regards.

                                    "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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                                    • Jackal
                                      Jackal last edited by Jackal

                                      Good evening, Gentlemen.

                                      I succeeded with acting my plan, as seems.

                                      Was Windows in need to be fixed? Or my Falcon installation (less probable, though, given that I installed it three times from scratch)? Who knows.

                                      It works. In full. We all (I, me and myself) are so happy. 😆

                                      @Seifer, @airtex2019, @WurminatorZA, @hoover, @malpaso, @Icer (hope I forgot to quote none, here, or I will be in deep trouble): thanks a huge lot for your kind assistance.

                                      One more experience done, with a happy ending well deserved, I think.

                                      With best regards to all.

                                      "I told it Orville and Wilbur too: that thing will never fly"

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                                      • hoover
                                        hoover @Jackal last edited by

                                        @jackal

                                        Glad to hear you got it working Gianni!

                                        All the best,

                                        Uwe

                                        System specs: win10pro / Linux Mint 20.x, 32GB RAM, nv 1070ti, 2x1 TB SSD, 1x4TB SATA; HOTAS Warthog (DX), TM MFDs, G25Shifter, T500RS wheel / pedals; CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core; MoBo: X570-A PRO (MS-7C37); Display: 43" LG nano 779pa (2560x1440), 19" Fujitsu-Siemens (1280x1024) used for DE.

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