Middle East Theater 128 for 4.37
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@SpbGoro
Actually f22 has HMCS! on the latest upgrade it can carry 6 Aim120D and 2 aim9x block 2 internally…
it can also carry 8 GBU-53 sdb ii
or 8 gbu 39 sdb internally
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@Hubert3000 I’m supersure like 100 percent sure f22 block 30 can carry 6 Aim120d in fuselage bay and 2 Aim9x block 2 in side bays
also carry up to 8 sdb ii or sdb in fuselage bay or up to 2 jdam gbu 31 in fuselage bay
it can also carry 2 external fuel tanks on the wings…
the radar of this beast is not APG 77 it’s APG 77(V)1 with 220 miles range against targets with 3 square meter radar cross section -
@SpbGoro no actually this loadout is not correct f22 can carry 6 Aim 120C or D internally in the main fuselage and 2 AIM9-M or X in the side bays.
up to 8 gbu 39 or 53 sdb i or ii in fuselage bay as well.
or up to 2 gbu 31 jdam in fuselage bay.
keep in mind that f22 raptor block 10 and 15 with Standard APG-77 equiped has no hmcs and can only carry 6 aim 120c and 2 aim 9m
but the upgraded block 30 has HMCS and is equiped with APG-77(V)1 a massive upgrade on Standrad APG-77 and can carry 6 Aim-120D and 2Aim-9X -
@farazparsa there are only 32 ship of the block 10-15 f22s in service of the US airforce the rest of the fleet upgraded to block 30 or being upgraded
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@Hubert3000 dude this link says hmd not hmcs! hmd is more advanced than hmcs.
like f35 lightning helmet that has hmd.
hmcs stands for helmet mounted cueing system
hmd stands for helmet MOUNTED DISPLAY!
the difference between these two tech is
on hmd there is built in Display in the helmet’s Visor that it can display more info or sensor output on the helmet’s Visor in hmd tech (Like DAS! and…) but hmcs is only hud info and cueing system.
F22 block 30 has HMCS but no HMD
only F35 has HMD
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@farazparsa It doesn’t have any helmet mounted display at all. As it says in the link. And for the payload that’s what I said you might have missed a post further up.
“Given that the F-22 is the only frontline USAF fighter not to have a helmet-mounted display and targeting system [the F-15 and F-16 both use the Joint Helmet-Mounted Cuing System (JHMCS), and the F-35 has its own unique helmet-mounted display system (HMDS)], the service has been evaluating the Scorpion helmet for at least seven years.”
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Correct the F-22 has no HMD/S at the moment.
Current armament options:
2 x 9M or 9X in side bays
10 x 120C or D (6 in main bays and 4 on outboard pylons with dual-rail launchers)
2 x 600 GAL tanks on inboard wing stations
2 x GBU-32 JDAM in main weapon bays
8 x GBU-39 SDB in main weapons baysThe aircraft can still carry 2 x AIM-120 in addition to 2 x GBU-32 or 8 x GBU-39.
That’s the loadout for Increment 3.2B capable aircraft.
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@Scorpion82 if f22 doesn’t have HMCS at the moment then how can it launch high off boresight shot using AIM-9X? dude f22 block 30 has hmcs,but no hmd
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@Hubert3000
if f22 doesn’t have HMCS at the moment then how can it launch high off boresight shot using AIM-9X? dude f22 block 30 has hmcs,but no hmd -
@farazparsa It can’t do full AIM-9X capability, it uses radar for high off boresight cueing. My guess is the USAF thinks it will kill everything BVR with AIM-120 so maybe doesn’t need it.
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@Hubert3000 my guess is if it realy doesn’t have hmcs then it will use APG-77 SAM(situational awareness mode) for getting a lock using sensor data fuse via port band 2/3/4 antennas to get a perfect off boresight lock for a 9x off boresight shot.
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@Hubert3000 i did research about f22 hmcs right now
it doesn’t have hmcs capability i was wrong but
it can do helmetless high off boresight shot because aim9x has lock on after launch capability. it means as soon as missile gets fired off the rail pilot can lock on the target via radar and missile will immediately turn and guide to the target.
as far as i know this capability is not programed in bms.
so you can simply enable hmcs on raptor for aim 9 x high off boresight shots.
and thank you all for participating in this conversation
so the raptor for being realistic in this theater needs to have:
hmcs enabled
carry 6 Aim120d or c internally(fuselage bay)
carry 2 aim 9 x internally(side bays)
carry 8 sdb gbu 39 or 53 internally(fuselage bay)
carry 2 gbu 32 jdam internally(fuselage bay)
carry up to 8 aim 120c or d or aim 9 x externally on dual amraam or sidewinder rail.
2 external fuel tanks
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@farazparsa I don’t think they use external stores for combat missions as it compromises stealth.
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@farazparsa said in Middle East Theater 128 for 4.37:
@Scorpion82 if f22 doesn’t have HMCS at the moment then how can it launch high off boresight shot using AIM-9X? dude f22 block 30 has hmcs,but no hmd
As Hubert said, it can cue the missile with the radar and possibly other means such as data linked targets or even emitters tracked by the AN/ALR-94. One of the reasons why the AIM-9X was only integrated that late on the F-22 was that the original AIM-9X Block 1 was LOBL capable only. The Block 2 version introduced a LOAL capability, which is important for the F-22, as the side mounted position severely restricts the seeker’s field of view, as much of it is obscured by the airframe.
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@Hubert3000 yeah right i didn’t saw any photo or videos of the f22 raptor with external missiles.
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@Scorpion82 yes sir that’s right️
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Hey guys. I have noticed some weird behavior with the JASSMs in the US/Iran camp. They are hitting to the side of the tgt steer-points is this a bug?
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@JUmpstart5179 you sure you were zeroed and hadn’t accidentally offset your target designation searching with the FCR?
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@jstnj no I don’t use the FCR when targeting. I use the coordinates set in recon for everything assigned and use TGP when I target on the fly.
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@JUmpstart5179 said in Middle East Theater 128 for 4.37:
Hey guys. I have noticed some weird behavior with the JASSMs in the US/Iran camp. They are hitting to the side of the tgt steer-points is this a bug?
Looks like a bug. I tested in Korea JASSM aim is off. You should make a bug report.