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    • Obi1O Offline
      Obi1
      last edited by

      Hi,

      I have installed the Jetseat and software a long time ago. Recently I noticed that one of the rotors is not functioning anymore. So I looked for a possible replacement seat and found this HF8.
      I have a question about replacing the Jetseat with the HF8 haptic seat. Will I be able to just disconnect the jetseat and connect the HF8 and it will keep working with the already installed software? (so like really just one seat changed for another on the usb)
      Or will this HF8 be not compatible with the Jetseat in terms of hardware/recognition? To me it seemed almost same seats (rotor amounts and usb connection)
      Also read on some forum that it was working this way for someone using DCS.
      I just want to be sure and hope that someone has tried already?

      Cheers Obi1

      Intel P5Q E8600 [email protected]
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      • AtlasA Offline
        Atlas @Obi1
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        @Obi1

        I reached out to Andre not too long ago and was able to source some replacements. However, do note that doing a replacement will mean destruction of your JetSeat as there is simply no way to get to the hardware without destroying the seat itself. Having said that, I was able to buy a deck chair cover from IKEA and simply velcro-mounted my motors to that.

        Hope that helps!

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        • Obi1O Offline
          Obi1 @Atlas
          last edited by

          @Atlas I was actually more thinking about the new seat HF8 as a total replacement at once. Mainly also because it will make ordering and delivering a lot easier. Justcurious if they are compatible with eachother.

          Cheers Obi1

          Intel P5Q E8600 [email protected]
          8 Gb DDR2 Black Dragon Evo One 1066FSB, 512 Gb SSD 840 Pro,
          ATI R9 280X XFX Eyefinity 4x, TrackIr 5, TM Warthog, Saitek ProFlight Cessna Rudders,
          JetSeat, 2xMFD, ICP, G19 Keyboard, G13 Keypad, Voice Command, Windows 7 64 bit

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          • IcarusI Offline
            Icarus @Obi1
            last edited by Icarus

            @Obi1 That seat software does not support DCS or BMS. It will just vibrate to any sounds your soundcard produces including voices. You need software that supports a game to do it properly and get only the sounds of engine etc. I tried my seat without software and I got a really creepy massage in briefing because it picked up all the voices in Discord. It doesn’t work properly without supporting software.

            System Specs:

            Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

            Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

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            • Obi1O Offline
              Obi1 @Icarus
              last edited by

              @Icarus Yes but like i said: is it working with already installed software from Jetseat? Like the aviator wings for example that works with BMS here already.

              Intel P5Q E8600 [email protected]
              8 Gb DDR2 Black Dragon Evo One 1066FSB, 512 Gb SSD 840 Pro,
              ATI R9 280X XFX Eyefinity 4x, TrackIr 5, TM Warthog, Saitek ProFlight Cessna Rudders,
              JetSeat, 2xMFD, ICP, G19 Keyboard, G13 Keypad, Voice Command, Windows 7 64 bit

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              • IcarusI Offline
                Icarus @Obi1
                last edited by

                @Obi1 Oh nice. Glad it works with the other seats software thats awesome and surprising.👍

                System Specs:

                Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

                Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

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                • Obi1O Offline
                  Obi1 @Icarus
                  last edited by

                  @Icarus Well actually i need a confirmation that it does. But i read somewhere on another forum that it did.

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                  8 Gb DDR2 Black Dragon Evo One 1066FSB, 512 Gb SSD 840 Pro,
                  ATI R9 280X XFX Eyefinity 4x, TrackIr 5, TM Warthog, Saitek ProFlight Cessna Rudders,
                  JetSeat, 2xMFD, ICP, G19 Keyboard, G13 Keypad, Voice Command, Windows 7 64 bit

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                  • IcarusI Offline
                    Icarus @Obi1
                    last edited by

                    @Obi1 If it does you are gold. Simshaker Jetseat software is really good IMO.

                    System Specs:

                    Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

                    Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

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                    • Obi1O Offline
                      Obi1 @Icarus
                      last edited by

                      @Icarus I later read on a dutch forum that it would indeed work. But he said only 6 of the 8 rotors worked. I really hope we could get some definitive confirmation from somebody in our community that has tested this also.

                      Cheers

                      Intel P5Q E8600 [email protected]
                      8 Gb DDR2 Black Dragon Evo One 1066FSB, 512 Gb SSD 840 Pro,
                      ATI R9 280X XFX Eyefinity 4x, TrackIr 5, TM Warthog, Saitek ProFlight Cessna Rudders,
                      JetSeat, 2xMFD, ICP, G19 Keyboard, G13 Keypad, Voice Command, Windows 7 64 bit

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                      • FullMetal_cooKieF Offline
                        FullMetal_cooKie
                        last edited by FullMetal_cooKie

                        At the moment I don’t know how to get the HF8 to work with Falcon BMS, but it works like a charm on DCS wit the Simshaker for Aviators software.

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                          Icarus @FullMetal_cooKie
                          last edited by

                          @FullMetal_cooKie Simshaker for Aviators does not work with BMS. You need the other one for BMS.

                          System Specs:

                          Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

                          Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

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                          • FullMetal_cooKieF Offline
                            FullMetal_cooKie @Icarus
                            last edited by FullMetal_cooKie

                            @Icarus Yes I know, but the HF8 does not work with the Simshaker Wings software.

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                              Icarus @FullMetal_cooKie
                              last edited by Icarus

                              @FullMetal_cooKie If it doesn’t work with Simshaker Wings then HF8 won’t work properly with BMS unless HF8 supports BMS. All you will get is all sounds vibrating your seat including voices etc. I tried that with buttkicker on its own. Its weird and not immersive. You need support to weedout the unecessary sounds and enhance the needed sim sounds. Hope you can find a way to get it to work with Simshaker Wings.

                              System Specs:

                              Main: i7-3930K @ 4.0 GHz, 32Gb Corsair 2133-DDR3 RAM, RTX 2080ti, 1Tb Samsung SSD + 5x Samsung SSD's, 1.0KW Corsair PSU, SB Fatal1ty Recon3D Professional, Sennheiser PC360, 30" Dell LED/24" Acer LED, Corsair K70, Cougar MFDs, Cougar FSSB-R2 + WH grip, TUSBA TQS + CubPilot HALL mod, 4x CH MFP's, BU036A, BU036X, TrackIR5 + DelanClip, Simpeds, Gametrix KW-908 Jetseat + Buttkicker Gamer2, 3rd Space vest.

                              Secondary: 2x 19" LED, 2x 8" VGA, 2x 7" USB, 14" LED, MFDE.

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                              • FullMetal_cooKieF Offline
                                FullMetal_cooKie
                                last edited by

                                So I made it work. For Falcon BMS to work with the NLR HF8, you need SIMSHAKER WINGS SOFTWARE. But you also need the SIMSHAKER WINGS OPTION: REALTEUS FORCEFEEL SUPPORT for 12 dollars.

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                                • R Offline
                                  Ricky @FullMetal_cooKie
                                  last edited by

                                  @FullMetal_cooKie That’s cool! So it’s really working? Like proper feedback instead of just vibrating to every sound?

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                                  • Obi1O Offline
                                    Obi1 @FullMetal_cooKie
                                    last edited by

                                    @FullMetal_cooKie Does it work for all the 8 rotors or just the 6 that was mentioned somewhere. Good to see that yougot it working.

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                                    8 Gb DDR2 Black Dragon Evo One 1066FSB, 512 Gb SSD 840 Pro,
                                    ATI R9 280X XFX Eyefinity 4x, TrackIr 5, TM Warthog, Saitek ProFlight Cessna Rudders,
                                    JetSeat, 2xMFD, ICP, G19 Keyboard, G13 Keypad, Voice Command, Windows 7 64 bit

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                                    • FullMetal_cooKieF Offline
                                      FullMetal_cooKie @Ricky
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                                      @Ricky yes it works with the game’s telemetry and not just the sound.

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                                      • FullMetal_cooKieF Offline
                                        FullMetal_cooKie @Obi1
                                        last edited by FullMetal_cooKie

                                        @Obi1 I think there is a payware upgrade for the software to work with more than 6 rotors.

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                                          Demolition @FullMetal_cooKie
                                          last edited by

                                          @FullMetal_cooKie Hello Mate. Could you please help me get the HF8 to work with Simshaker and BMS?

                                          I purchased the sim shaker wings software and the “NLR HF8 / Realteus ForceFeel Support SimShaker Wings option” and installed them both.

                                          Which settings do i need in the HF8 software. When i play iracing i simply select that game from the HF8 game library and it runs. What do i select for BMS?

                                          Also what settings in the sim shaker software? I have done a manual start and selected the HFP option. When i click test nothing happens. My seat is connected via usb only. Does it need to be connected with audio cable too?

                                          thanks in advance!

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                                          • dawgboyD Offline
                                            dawgboy @Demolition
                                            last edited by

                                            @Demolition said in Jetseat and HF8 haptic:

                                            @FullMetal_cooKie Hello Mate. Could you please help me get the HF8 to work with Simshaker and BMS?

                                            I purchased the sim shaker wings software and the “NLR HF8 / Realteus ForceFeel Support SimShaker Wings option” and installed them both.

                                            Which settings do i need in the HF8 software. When i play iracing i simply select that game from the HF8 game library and it runs. What do i select for BMS?

                                            Also what settings in the sim shaker software? I have done a manual start and selected the HFP option. When i click test nothing happens. My seat is connected via usb only. Does it need to be connected with audio cable too?

                                            thanks in advance!

                                            So, you don’t use the HF8 software for BMS, just the SimShaker Wings and you have to buy this per the guidance “SIMSHAKER WINGS OPTION: REALTEUS FORCEFEEL SUPPORT for 12 dollars” and install both. When I run SimShaker Wings launcher, it automatically waits for Falcon BMS, which then spawns the other plugin app, and there you can test and configure your HF8 haptic cushion. Ensure you have the cushion on and then enabled in the second app, then test to ensure it vibrates. Then you can tweak the intensity in flight to ensure it works as desired.

                                            I think the fidelity is great in BMS, at least so far.

                                            Good luck!


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