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    Laser designator on F16C Blk 50

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    • cns180784
      cns180784 last edited by

      So it seems this is built in to this model F16 and isnt loaded to a hardpoint like the TGP or HTS….this is the case? and as long as i have LGB’s (GBU’s) then i can release them as long as i switch the laser arm on?

      Just a bit confused as i’ve come from playing command modern air/naval operations (CMANO) and aircraft in that sim that dont have a laser designator mounted have to have it fitted in conjunction with a loadout for LGB’s…and looking in the command DB it doesnt show a laser designator mounted on this type of F16…though there is many versions by year.

      EDIT: Is the TGP required to release LGB’s?

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      • l3crusader
        l3crusader last edited by

        That is kind of a complicated matter, bear with me.

        • strictly speaking, IRL, TGP is not required to release LGB if you have another aircraft or somebody on the ground doing the lasing.
          In BMS though, none of this is implemented, so you need to have a TGP.

        • normally you do have a TGP on F-16C Block 50 in BMS. So either the AC model you are describing is not this one, or your install is messed up, or you are talking about a mod.

        • when you load a LGB, the TGP is automatically added to your loadout. BUT if your AC does not have a TGP (no checkbox on the loadout screen), you wont have the TGP “store”, but the TGP “sensor” and the MFD page will function anyway. That is an old hack that needs cleaning up.

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        • cns180784
          cns180784 @l3crusader last edited by

          @l3crusader:

          That is kind of a complicated matter, bear with me.

          • strictly speaking, IRL, TGP is not required to release LGB wif you have another aircraft or somebody on the ground doing the lasing.
            In BMS though, none of this is implemented, so you need to have a TGP.

          • normally you do have a TGP on F-16C Block 50 in BMS. So either the AC model you are describing is not this one, or your install is messed up, or you are talking about a mod.

          • when you load a LGB, the TGP is automatically added to your loadout. BUT if your AC does not have a TGP (no checkbox on the loadout screen), you wont have the TGP “store”, but the TGP “sensor” and the MFD page will function anyway. That is an old hack that needs cleaning up.

          Yea i havent tried loading a LGB yet in the loadout (as i havent done any bombing yet, not even in tutorials) so i guess if i did then the TGP would automatically be loaded. This all makes sense now as it has the same in command, where for a LGB loadout it has the Sniper XR pod which is the TGP with it. Its just i watched a tutorial on this by Krause and i saw a comment someone left saying they were releasing GBU’s without the TGP but i guess he must have thought they were still being laser guided but werent.

          I want to learn to use the TGP now as i’m gona fly my first sortie in the tiger spirit campaign which is a BARCAP. Feel i know enough to be able to do this now but need to use the TGP to ID aircraft as theres’ no AWACS available.

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          • Dracfalcon
            Dracfalcon @cns180784 last edited by

            @cns - TGP is not automatically loaded. Recommend you take TGP at all times…as it is useful in many situations.

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            • cns180784
              cns180784 @Dracfalcon last edited by

              @Dracfalcon:

              @cns - TGP is not automatically loaded. Recommend you take TGP at all times…as it is useful in many situations.

              Yea will do and will set it up in DTC to display it for my upcoming BARCAP. Just tried the TGP out in the comms and IDM TE using it to ID the other flights in my package, good fun.

              Thing is i noticed in the last few TE’s i’ve done i can no longer hear the voices when theres’ comms going on like between the tower or to wingman or for when firing weapons. I must have pressed something which disabled hearing the voices although i can see the text in top left. Can someone tell me how i can hear the voices again? what do i press?

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              • Dracfalcon
                Dracfalcon @cns180784 last edited by

                @cns180784:

                Yea will do and will set it up in DTC to display it for my upcoming BARCAP. Just tried the TGP out in the comms and IDM TE using it to ID the other flights in my package, good fun.

                Thing is i noticed in the last few TE’s i’ve done i can no longer hear the voices when theres’ comms going on like between the tower or to wingman or for when firing weapons. I must have pressed something which disabled hearing the voices although i can see the text in top left. Can someone tell me how i can hear the voices again? what do i press?

                Did you get my PM on the Comms?

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