-Ice's Falcon BMS Helios Profile Updated!
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Thanks.
That profile does load without crashing in the Helios Editor. I was able to Reset the Monitors to match my monitors.
However, that profile does not have any of the gauges showing up at all… I guess I could try and figure out how to add them all back. But somebody must have a full working profile?
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did you download all the image files as well? they are separate.
and the gauges themselves are populated by MFD EXTRACTOR, another separate program.
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Yes, I downloaded the image files. But I didn’t know you had to use a separate program. I already have 1 Helios profile made by Scooter, that just uses the Helios Dials. Maybe I’ll just stick with that. I just wanted to checkout Ice’s profile…
I do have one other question… When I use the BMS Cockpit Display Extraction tool, it has a window called PFL. Could you tell me what that is? I read that it stands for Pilot Fault List? Where is this normally in the F16 Cockpit?
Thanks again.
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PFL is on the right aux panel above the caution light panel. See dash 1 pages 48 thru 50.
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if i can make a suggestion for the next release.
Focus on getting anything needed to perform a full ramp start working, including canopy button, and what ever that special thing on the throttle for engine start (not the detent thing).As well i have had problems with bindings not being copied that i was wondering if some light could be shed on.
I currently have multiple touch screens, I took your left and right popup panels and copied them to corresponding touch screens. What i have noticed is the bindings did not copy over with the graphics and switches.
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i did just find the canopy button, but it is not clearly labeled.
and i have found that at least on most of the callbacks were copied , but just arent working.
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Hate to have to post this… I had Helios working a while back. Hard drive crash. So set up new BMS 4.33, with Helios and Ice’s profile and cannot get it to work at all. Made sure the Helios interface was pointed to the Ice key file and set it up key file in BMS controller set up as well. I am using a CH Fighterstick and throttle but thought that should not matter as far as just getting the Helios to work. It comes up on monitor 2 but no switches or anything work when clicked. I am not even extracting any MFD or gauages, etc, just to keep it lean for troubleshooting. Before when I had it working with 4.32 it set up fairly straightforward, worked first time. Different GPU now, Asus GTX960, otherwise same hardware. Have been trying for 3 evenings, nothing.
I have read this thread and a few others, other forums too, and tried a few things but no joy. Any ideas guys?Is your touchscreen working at all? Sounds to me more of a touchscreen driver issue. Try starting the sim in windowed more (if you aren’t already) and manipulate the switches/buttons using the mouse cursor.
Is the .key file recognized properly in BMS? Try out a few key presses in the UI screen and see if the game recognizes what you’ve pressed correctly.
Hi Ice,
I am trying to run your profile in the editor but nothing shows up and then it would crash. Any ideas? Thanks.
Check out the first thread to see if the suggested fix there works for you. If that doesn’t work, you’ll have to explain what exactly is happening in your case.
Hi ice, and guys.
I have some little but annoying issues with your profile…90% works very well, but other aspects are not working as expected, for example when i press f-ack i have the MFD brightness that decrease, when i press master caution, fps, right hardpoint and fcr on/off switches nothing happens. I checked in Helios and the callbacks bindings is correct, for just a check i tried using my key profile (Full BMS with only my Saitek X55 bindings modified) and the f-ack button and master caution works well.
I am using your profile just with saitek x55 stuff instead of Warthog ones, but i tried also loading your profile with no changes at all and the results are the same. Others have similar problems?With these i cannot do a Cold start without using mouse and keyboard… but i really don’t understand what could be the problem if for other works well.
Thanks anyone for helpI’m not sure I understand you correctly… when you press the Master Caution light on the cockpit, what happens? You can load up Helios, start BMS, go to the Setup -> Controllers screen, and manipulate the buttons/switches on Helios. You should see it working correctly there.
Thanks.
That profile does load without crashing in the Helios Editor. I was able to Reset the Monitors to match my monitors.
However, that profile does not have any of the gauges showing up at all… I guess I could try and figure out how to add them all back. But somebody must have a full working profile?
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Yes, I downloaded the image files. But I didn’t know you had to use a separate program. I already have 1 Helios profile made by Scooter, that just uses the Helios Dials. Maybe I’ll just stick with that. I just wanted to checkout Ice’s profile…
I do have one other question… When I use the BMS Cockpit Display Extraction tool, it has a window called PFL. Could you tell me what that is? I read that it stands for Pilot Fault List? Where is this normally in the F16 Cockpit?
Thanks again.
Yes, you will need to use Lightning’s MFDE to get the gauges. Unfortunately, the Helios gauges are more for the A-10C aircraft and not for the F-16 hence the decision to use MFDE. Also, the last time I checked, the HSI in Helios never worked correctly….
As for the PFL, there is a window on my profile that is where the PFL should be.
if i can make a suggestion for the next release.
Focus on getting anything needed to perform a full ramp start working, including canopy button, and what ever that special thing on the throttle for engine start (not the detent thing).As well i have had problems with bindings not being copied that i was wondering if some light could be shed on.
I currently have multiple touch screens, I took your left and right popup panels and copied them to corresponding touch screens. What i have noticed is the bindings did not copy over with the graphics and switches.
What can i do differently to have the bindings copy successfully?I’m not sure I understand you. Full rampstart is definitely possible now. I passed my IQT and all our flights were cold starts I do apologize about that canopy button. I can’t figure out how to fit the spider switch in the current profle plus it was a pain to use so I decided to “hide” the canopy switch for now. I also think the default Helios canopy switch is hideous. Anyone got good Photoshop skills?
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Whew! I think that’s me caught up with all the questions in this thread!
Have a good Christmas everyone!
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is there a JFS Start switch in the profile i’m missing?
referenced here in this video.
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Hahaha… I would not watch Krause’s videos for the exact reason you’re asking the question. He is actually referring to the idle throttle switch. At 2:34 of that video, you can see the REAL JFS start switch already on Start 2. When somebody doesn’t know what a JFS start switch is or what a FPM or TVV is called, I don’t think they should be making tutorial videos.
Just follow the startup sequence as per the BMS documentation. Can’t go wrong there!
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While it could be my error, it seems that the Power and ACT/PWR buttons on the TWA panel (left side) do not light up in the profile, but they do light up in the game. I compared V1 and V2 of the profile and the profile for 4.32 have these buttons with the images lighted up while the version for 4.33 do not seem to have these images or at least I could not locate them. Everything else seems to work properly except for the various TWA images that lighted up green in the 4.32 version.
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Hi Ice, great job, but i have a problem that i’m not able to understand if is due to my laptop touch screen, to your profile or to Helios.
Here is…
I’m using a remote PC with GPT keyboard repeater, everythings it works well if i’m using the mouse but if i try to use the touch it looks like if one touch is read as a multiple touch and it send double or triple key event.
This it happens also if i run the profile without GPT or any other programs but not if i try it into Helios profile editor, the strange things is that with a profile that i did with only MFDs it looks OK -
Hi Ice
Can you help me.
I have been amending your profile quite considerably for the last few weeks with no problems when suddenly I find that the MFDE extracted dials are not UNDER my helios screens.
So if I open left or right consoles the MFDE instruments show through. They are also not under the protective screen and so can be moved about by touch.
I have tried obvious solutions but am at a loss as to how to proceed.
David
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While it could be my error, it seems that the Power and ACT/PWR buttons on the TWA panel (left side) do not light up in the profile, but they do light up in the game. I compared V1 and V2 of the profile and the profile for 4.32 have these buttons with the images lighted up while the version for 4.33 do not seem to have these images or at least I could not locate them. Everything else seems to work properly except for the various TWA images that lighted up green in the 4.32 version.
I’m not exactly sure what’s going on, I’ll have a check.
Hi Ice, great job, but i have a problem that i’m not able to understand if is due to my laptop touch screen, to your profile or to Helios.
Here is…
I’m using a remote PC with GPT keyboard repeater, everythings it works well if i’m using the mouse but if i try to use the touch it looks like if one touch is read as a multiple touch and it send double or triple key event.
This it happens also if i run the profile without GPT or any other programs but not if i try it into Helios profile editor, the strange things is that with a profile that i did with only MFDs it looks OKUnfortunately, I have no idea how GPT work or how your laptop touch screen works. If using Win7, try going into Control Panel -> Pen and Touch and then checking the Pen Options or Touch and make sure single-tap is single-click and things like that.
Hi Ice
Can you help me.
I have been amending your profile quite considerably for the last few weeks with no problems when suddenly I find that the MFDE extracted dials are not UNDER my helios screens.
So if I open left or right consoles the MFDE instruments show through. They are also not under the protective screen and so can be moved about by touch.
I have tried obvious solutions but am at a loss as to how to proceed.
David
Select the Monitor that displayes the panels and under the Properties tab, make sure the Always On Top box is ticked. Also, under Layers, double-check that you have a bottom layer called Back Sheet Transparency. This layer is locked by default and is simply a see-through layer that “protects” the MFDE stuff from being activated by your touch.
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Thanks Ice
Those were the obvious things I tried.
Solved problem though. It was caused by me amending front console screen,
When I saved using “paint” I lost all the transparent holes through which you see extracted gauges etc.
I had then somehow switched off always on top.
I don’t suppose you can tell me how to save in “paint” and maintain those transparent holes ??Thanks again David
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What are you saving in paint? If you save them as .png files, they should be good.
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Hi Ice
I am saving front console screen after adding text to it.I don’t think paint can deal with transparencies but I have found that Paintshop Pro can, after googling it.
Do I remsmber seeing something about creating transparent sections in one of your tutorials?
I will have a search.
Thanks David
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Yep… I use Photoshop. Paint is just too… basic. Damn, I’ve not used Paintshop Pro in FOREVER!
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Do you use Photoshop to create templates with transparent hatches as in the front console
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Hi Ice
I am saving front console screen after adding text to it.I don’t think paint can deal with transparencies but I have found that Paintshop Pro can, after googling it.
Do I remsmber seeing something about creating transparent sections in one of your tutorials?
I will have a search.
Thanks David
PowerPoint also does transparencies when saving graphics as an image. It’s what I use.