VIRPIL HOTAS
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Beware with that one
(i tested the grip only)
the Din2 connector of the Cougar/warthog version is left loose and can’t take the abuse of daily ops.Pros: good external manufacturing, clean stuff, attractive russian grip
Cons: beside the din connector reserve of the grip, buttons are short course which is giving a toy effect. russian sticks have very long button course, even longer than us style grips
Personally i haven’t been convinced by the grip pas that woaw effect going with the choice to have a russian style grip.
I haven’t seen a review of their full base yet (haven’t tested it either)
price range is also about 300€ but unless we start seeing user reviews of the base, it’s still is an unknown -
Yeah… the “feel” matters alot, besides the endurance and precision.
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Btw. little OT, but curious.
A good HOTAS system (stick and thruttle) + MFGcrosswind quality or -ish pedals … the whole package under 450-470$ . you think that would sell well?
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i’m not the right guy to answer that question, i paid 1000 euros for a RS rudder, and that was a great deal back then
imho hotas is THE most important function of the sim. If you’re serious about your flight sim experience there is ONE area where you should NOT do compromise: that’s the flight controls.
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That is why i built my own “Stick”. I would not exchange it with any other 1000$ stick tbh.
But what i would love to see is a multi-platform useable stick. Nice in quality and precision and feel… usable for different planes and sims or space-sims etc etc.
Basically a kick-ass mainstream product affordable for the majority of “gamers”. Something between plastic phantastic and OMG +500$ stick. -
i’ll give you my opinion with that one:
you can’t
i love simulating the F-16
I love flying GA for realbut i can’t have the same flight simulator for both. Flying a F-16 hotas with a GA flight sim - and i’m not talking FS here) just doesn’t give me the feeling i have in real flight
And the GA plane i fly isn’t yoke, it’s a stickAlthough to a lesser extend, i’d love to have a russian grip when i fly the Su-39 in DCS. but i agree it’s cosmetic
but i can’t fly the FCC with a WWII sim.in all cases, my brains tells me something is not right
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@Red:
i’ll give you my opinion with that one:
you can’t
i love simulating the F-16
I love flying GA for realbut i can’t have the same flight simulator for both. Flying a F-16 hotas with a GA flight sim - and i’m not talking FS here) just doesn’t give me the feeling i have in real flight
And the GA plane i fly isn’t yoke, it’s a stickAlthough to a lesser extend, i’d love to have a russian grip when i fly the Su-39 in DCS. but i agree it’s cosmetic
but i can’t fly the FCC with a WWII sim.in all cases, my brains tells me something is not right
Red Dog,
A question! Then what do you recommend to replace HOTAS Cougar?
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i can’t fly the FCC with a WWII sim.
that must be a biatch lol. i can imagine. i dont like non-moving sticks, because a simulation is already “stale” and non moving (only 2D screen) … i like, if at least my feets, head and hands move spacialy
what is “GA”?
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A question! Then what do you recommend to replace HOTAS Cougar?
A modded hotas cougar
imho, for a F-16 sim, there is nothing better than a cougar with FCC and eventually the warthog stick grip on it
you guessed right, that’s what i have and i will never change it … for F-16 flyingwhat is “GA”?
General Aviation
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Is there anything specific you dont like on the FCC? Or could be little better?
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The gimbals and mounting solution on this one looks interesting….
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Is there anything specific you dont like on the FCC? Or could be little better?
i’m afraid nope, it’s just perfect for me
it’s configurable re forces
it’s mountable in a stick base (cockpit) or regular cougar base
it’s reliable
it keeps cougar programming capabilities (i’m no big fan of full DX stuff)
it’s been in my pit for ages without any issues serving my pit time very wellI wouldn’t change it - it’s one of the best investment i made for my simming hobby
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+1 to what RD has to say. And add that I prefer the Warthog stick grip to the Cougar one…by head and shoulders.
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These hardcore tests probably because VIRPIL made it into space: https://virpil.com/en/blog/82-the-first-in-space
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This dude compares the VKB Gunfighter vs the VIRPIL Mongoose and says… “way better than Thrustmaster Warthog” …
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Totally agree with RedDog w/r/t to not cheaping out on the control stick (and throttle and rudders) I maintain two controllers and use a mux to switch between them:
Warthog stock, for DCS (Su33 and WW2 a/c)
Cougar stick force mod, TQS HS mod and TUSBA-R2 for BMS (F16 FBW, and also when I fly the Hornet occasionally)
SLAW F16 rudders (sold my RS rudders to a 1:1 cockpit gent in Europe which funded these rudders and my desktop ICP)I cant fly WW2 a/c with a static FBW stick, I have to use a positional stick.
And I prefer heavy metal control sticks over plastic ones, even though I did buy Baur’s KG13 because its the only current Luftwaffe one out there AFAIK. There used be a team called ACES that made a metal KG13 for sale, but it was about 1000 bucks and they closed shop eventually.