AGM 65D BSGHT flashing after handoff Question
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If your technique works for you that’s what matters
I was just pointing out that there is no need to switch SOI to WPN and manually change each missile to EXP. This changed in Update 2 so I flagged it up just in case anyone hadn’t noticed; previously you had to TMS Up to ground stabilise the TGP before it would do this, which was not realistic.
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It does work for me and works well, with almost zero heads down time during the attack run. Keeping my eyes outside and on the target and sweeping for threats.
As far as the NFOV I have had bad luck bore sighting and getting the cross to go solid if I don’t switch to the NFOV prior to tracking a target, this is why I stated to switch it first. If I just lock the target with the Mav in the normal FOV more times than not i can’t get a solid cross. Switch to expanded and try it again boom good to go. I have no idea why, don’t care TBH just using what works for the time being.
Thanks for the info btw.
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@bill_3810:
As far as the NFOV I have had bad luck bore sighting and getting the cross to go solid if I don’t switch to the NFOV prior to tracking a target, this is why I stated to switch it first. If I just lock the target with the Mav in the normal FOV more times than not i can’t get a solid cross. Switch to expanded and try it again boom good to go. I have no idea why…
This is by design, reflecting the way the real missiles work.
“There is a significant increase in probability of hit for missiles launched in NFOV over missiles launched in WFOV. Advantages of NFOV are improved target identification and increased launch range. Missiles should be launched in NFOV whenever possible. Launching at WFOV may cause a loss of track after launch.” From page 155.
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Thanks folks, I appreciate the suggestions and feedback. I’ll be sure to give your technique a try, Bill. I’m still hitting 5 out of 6 targets and so I’m thinking I’m doing it right for the most part. I did read over the training manual thoroughly, but it’s a lot to digest. I’ll keep at it.
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If your good launches outnumber your bad then you probably have the right idea, the technique may just need a small amount of refinement.
TGP area track should be TMS right. A lot of people say it’s TMS forward but this is point track. The only reason it ends up in area is because the attempt to point fails back to area.
The auto-FOV works most times alright but it’s not a mind-reader. It can get in a state other than the operator would have chosen.
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Good points Darkman and Frederf. (completely forgot about the TMS Right)
I did another flight today and unfortunately from just inside 10 NM in Normal FOV with a 10-15 Deg Dive I couldn’t get a solid cross and that was all the way into almost 7 NM.
Rolled back out to the wheel re-entered and with Narrow FOV It was solid from the beginning.I don’t see how but there might be a possibility it varies from PC to PC but I don’t know really how that could be.
Gotta Stay current with the Mavs and practice them often, I just forget stuff after awhile and with a life and job it’s hard to keep on top of this hobby all the time.
From this point in the video I can show you the issue with the two different FOV’s. Maybe you can see something in the video i’m doing wrong but IDK.
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If you’re offset ~90° from the target in a wheel you can actually start your handoff just before or during your turn towards the target as long as you don’t exceed 30° of bank angle (-34 p147). The handoff will complete as you come out of the turn, giving you a bit more time for additional targets or scanning for threats before you pickle.
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If you’re offset ~90° from the target in a wheel you can actually start your handoff just before or during your turn towards the target as long as you don’t exceed 30° of bank angle (-34 p147). The handoff will complete as you come out of the turn, giving you a bit more time for additional targets or scanning for threats before you pickle.
Thanks, for the info. I think after being stung so much in the past with this bore sighting and hand off problems I’m a bit gun shy to try something that’s not dead center, especially knowing when I roll out i’ll be right on the money.
I will try this on the next flight AND get back into the books on the Mavs. It was read cover to cover when 4.33 came out but needs to be reviewed on a regular basis.
Cheers
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If you’re offset ~90° from the target in a wheel you can actually start your handoff just before or during your turn towards the target as long as you don’t exceed 30° of bank angle (-34 p147). The handoff will complete as you come out of the turn, giving you a bit more time for additional targets or scanning for threats before you pickle.
The 90 deg offset handoff will work correctly only if you wait for the HANOFF IN PROGRESS to flicker once and the start the roll in. If the roll in is executed immediately after the TMS UP handoff command, the result will be a flashing cross.
You forgot about this bug we picked up sometime ago.
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If your good launches outnumber your bad then you probably have the right idea, the technique may just need a small amount of refinement.
TGP area track should be TMS right. A lot of people say it’s TMS forward but this is point track. The only reason it ends up in area is because the attempt to point fails back to area.
The auto-FOV works most times alright but it’s not a mind-reader. It can get in a state other than the operator would have chosen.
I would just add that in handoff mode, TMS right will also cancel mav handoff target.
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That’s darn interesting. Will it recind a completed handoff as well as cancel a handoff in progress?
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That’s darn interesting. Will it recind a completed handoff as well as cancel a handoff in progress?
I never tried to interrupt handoff in progress, but in completed handoff the active maverick will reject its handoff target recinding completed handoff. I’ve had problems with it because after completing handoff during my training process I always pressed TMS-right to get TGP to Area from point and switch to second maverick with missile step cancelling my previous handoff.
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… I always pressed TMS-right to get TGP to Area from point…
Use TMS Down to go back to AREA from POINT (with TGP SOI).
See HOTAS Functions chart on page 148 of the -34 for the different functions, depending on which MFD page is SOI.
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Use TMS Down to go back to AREA from POINT (with TGP SOI).
See HOTAS Functions chart on page 148 of the -34 for the different functions, depending on which MFD page is SOI.
Thanks Darkman, now I know that - I figured it out from the manual a long time ago, I was making this mistake only during my training with 4.33 in the beginning - since then I am a happy and successful maverick user. That’s why I pointed out in this thread that TMS right will also cancel handoff.