Air-to-Air guide for beginners?
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Hello,
is there somewhere a manual for air-to-air combat for beginners?
I´d like to drop bombs, but i never did enough for AA-Business.
Thanks guys.
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The -34 manual in the Docs folder of your install has a good summary starting on page 133. Unfortunately, the A-A training missions haven’t been finished yet. Supanova has some excellent tutorials online (here’s the Aim-9 one:
) . I found using Instant Action for Air to Air on Rookie was a good way to get comfortable with the switchology in a non-threatening environment with unlimited missiles. You can also set up a Dogfight against a non-threatening adversary to practice locking up targets, understanding the DLZs, and releasing weapons. I’d start with the AIM-9 and then move to the AIM-120, as the ranges are shorter and you can see what’s going on better. After you have the basics down, the real fun begins as air-to-air combat, be it 1 v 1 or many v many is extremely dynamic and challenging.p.s. I also find that the air-to-air refueling TE provides an excellent opportunity for kills against a gently turning target.
-Rabbit
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Hello,
is there somewhere a manual for air-to-air combat for beginners?
I´d like to drop bombs, but i never did enough for AA-Business.
Thanks guys.
Welcome Pranne
A good place to learn the basic principles of A-A is “Art of the Kill” by Peter Bonanni
There is also a book to go with the video - you can find good second hand ones on eBay and Amazon -
“Air to air” is a very broad subject. You could read a stack of books equal to your height and not fully cover it. Can you be more specific?
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Ok thanks all!:-)
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Ok thanks all!:-)
You are welcome Pranne
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You are welcome Pranne
It is traditional to click the ‘thanks’ button under those that you wish to thank thoughOk found it!!:D
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I know its an old thread. But here is something I find very useful. Run a search on that channel for BFM it’ll show some videos that illustrate very good what Pete Bonanni is talking about. https://www.youtube.com/user/RequiemBoS/videos although its about the IL 2 Sturmovic , it still applies for jet fighters from the F16 era
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On youtube, I haven’t been able to find a lot of videos on using dogfight mode stealthily (i.e. get an AIM9 lock without using radar).
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hi. You should study the strategy of fourth generation fighters, terminology, and some history of aerial engagements. My advice is that if you are new to fighting and flying, learn how to fight in a biplane, then a prop plane, then a turbo prop, then a jet, then LO. BFM, which is basic fighter training and survival will teach you names of aerobatic skills and what others have done to have success but the skill of fighting and killing and winning takes time to develop. practice 1 v 1 head to head, from below and behind, from above and behind, from in front and below, from in front and above. practice 2 v 1, both offensive and defensive, practice beam counters, reversals, and learn what all of this terminology means.
There are great books, varying schools of thought and philosophy on engagement, many houses of warfare.
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I know its an old thread. But here is something I find very useful. Run a search on that channel for BFM it’ll show some videos that illustrate very good what Pete Bonanni is talking about. https://www.youtube.com/user/RequiemBoS/videos although its about the IL 2 Sturmovic , it still applies for jet fighters from the F16 era
seconded, I stumbled on these yesterday, very clear explanation of all the basic concepts. For BVR the possibilities are endless too but I really improved my engagements with these:
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On youtube, I haven’t been able to find a lot of videos on using dogfight mode stealthily (i.e. get an AIM9 lock without using radar).
Not specifically tailored to using the Dogfight-mode, but I made a tutorial on IR missiles for our squadron last year which also shows the principle of getting an IR lock without using RADAR. (not sure, but I think the lack of tone until uncaging at 2:13 may be a bug in BMS?)
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yes if you get the awacs and BRA and compass down, and you use the picture you can operate without your radar in AtoA and be pretty successful. The Aim120 of today has visual modes that also assist in guiding them into pitbull ranges without your radar ever emitting as well, although I do not think those are modeled in BMS or DCS.
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hi. You should study the strategy of fourth generation fighters, terminology, and some history of aerial engagements. My advice is that if you are new to fighting and flying, learn how to fight in a biplane, then a prop plane, then a turbo prop, then a jet, then LO. BFM, which is basic fighter training and survival will teach you names of aerobatic skills and what others have done to have success but the skill of fighting and killing and winning takes time to develop. practice 1 v 1 head to head, from below and behind, from above and behind, from in front and below, from in front and above. practice 2 v 1, both offensive and defensive, practice beam counters, reversals, and learn what all of this terminology means.
There are great books, varying schools of thought and philosophy on engagement, many houses of warfare.
Do real fighter pilots learn to dogfight in WW1 era planes?