Eurofighter Typhoon
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From my time messing with the typhoon, it would be nice if you can make a new model for the air to air missile rack(on the wings). Using the f16 pylons for bombs is probably fine since they look close enough. Making separate models is better imo, so later on others can make changes if they want without running into the problem of having everything in a bulk(plane and pylons)
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Front ressesed pylons done with their continuation on the wheel doors as well (that took me a while to achieve) also the pods under the wings that house chaff/flare dispensers are build.
On with the back pylons nowIm trying to hold it within the 30k so i have to be carefull what to add and how but might be a bit difficult i will see
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After research they dont look good i have to remake them. I made them too deep real ones are more shallow…
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Front ressesed pylons done with their continuation on the wheel doors as well (that took me a while to achieve) also the pods under the wings that house chaff/flare dispensers are build.
On with the back pylons nowhttps://i.ibb.co/47hPr58/EF2000-8.jpg
Im trying to hold it within the 30k so i have to be carefull what to add and how but might be a bit difficult i will see
Manos please don’t go with the 30k poly limit, unless you want to make it official for BMS.
The 30k limit lost meaning for me. I’m flying an 9 year old computer in online MP complex scenarios with models above 90k polys and i keep a 45/50 FPS steady.
Also this model deserves it
Continue the amazing work. Also i would like to talk to you PM if possible. Thanks
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Manos please dont go with the 30k poly limit, unlees you whant to make it official for BMS.
The 30k limit lost meaning for me. I’m flying an 9 year old computer in online MP complex scenarios with models above 90k polys and i keep a 45/50 FPS steady.
Also this model deserves it
Continue the amazing work. Also i would like to talk to you PM if possible. Thanks
It can be very detailed even in 30k but ok i will not limit my self since its (for now) just a add on for nordic. Imagine im at 21k now as is plus the afterburner flames maybe it will go to 23k. I will see how it goes. U may contact me whenever u want! Pm me her and if u need an e-mail i will be happy to share it in private [emoji6]
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Bit better i think
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Lol! Englis please? Maybe some photos? All those technical terms sound Chinese to me
Here in this image you see the Intergrated Tip Stub Pylon Launcher - ITSPL (left) which shall be part of the 3D modell as it is always fitted.
The right one is the Advanced Light Duty Ejector Release Unit - ALDERU with the Multifunctional Rail Launcher - MFRL being fitted (right). The MFRL is only fitted for air-to-air missiles.
http://www.alert5.com/newsphotos/2004.04.06.iris-t.jpgIn this image you can see a RAF Typhoon with Paveway II bombs fitted to the inboard wing stations using the Advanced Heavy Duty Ejector Release Unit - ADHERU and the 1000 l supersonfic fuel tank with its Tank Ejector Unit (TEU). It is noteworthy that the TEU is tied to the tank and is jettissoned along with the tank.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Eurofighter_Typhoon_on_static_display_%40_Farnborough_Airshow.jpgThe ADHERU is typically used on the centre and inboard wing stations when bombs or other AG weapons are fitted.
The most outer bombs in this image are fitted to the ALDERU, remaining bombs fitted to ADHERU. There is a visible difference between the centre and inboard wing pylons.
http://www.aviationcorner.net/public/photos/4/8/avc_00305248.jpg -
Here in this image you see the Intergrated Tip Stub Pylon Launcher - ITSPL (left) which shall be part of the 3D modell as it is always fitted.
The right one is the Advanced Light Duty Ejector Release Unit - ALDERU with the Multifunctional Rail Launcher - MFRL being fitted (right). The MFRL is only fitted for air-to-air missiles.
http://www.alert5.com/newsphotos/2004.04.06.iris-t.jpgIn this image you can see a RAF Typhoon with Paveway II bombs fitted to the inboard wing stations using the Advanced Heavy Duty Ejector Release Unit - ADHERU and the 1000 l supersonfic fuel tank with its Tank Ejector Unit (TEU). It is noteworthy that the TEU is tied to the tank and is jettissoned along with the tank.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Eurofighter_Typhoon_on_static_display_%40_Farnborough_Airshow.jpgThe ADHERU is typically used on the centre and inboard wing stations when bombs or other AG weapons are fitted.
The most outer bombs in this image are fitted to the ALDERU, remaining bombs fitted to ADHERU. There is a visible difference between the centre and inboard wing pylons.
http://www.aviationcorner.net/public/photos/4/8/avc_00305248.jpgThanks will do my best The wingtip pods are already modeled
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Do you have any plans to model the BOL countermeasures on the outboard pylons?
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Do you have any plans to model the BOL countermeasures on the outboard pylons?
Do you talk about graphics here?
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Do you talk about graphics here?
Probably he says that cause to model the effect of the countermeasure is a bit difficult i think
Anyway, does anyone besides the aircraft data file witch already exists plans to make an AFM file? I think this plane needs something like that… just my humble opinion of course! On other news just modeled and doffed the elevons and also the LEF’s i want to make the actuators as well, I saw the wings actually are very close to M2K and i will probably model them like that. Any other info on that will be helpfull -
Another question,
The intake ramps in front would be better if i will normally dof them as intake ramps or as lefs? some tests in game:someone explain this table please: so i can edit it accordinly!
#–---------------------------------------------------IntakeRamp
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animIntakeRamp1Table 3, 0 8 15, 4, 0.00 0.40 0.50 0.95, 15 15 0 15, 15 15 0 15, 15 15 15 15
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Hi Manos,
do you talk about the movement schedules of the control surfaces? The elevons on the Typhoon, actually referred to as flaperons are used for pitch, roll and trim control. The outboard flaperons are used for pitch and roll and the inboard flaperons are used for pitch and trim. The LEF move i.a.w. mach number and AoA. The vary cowls on the inlets can be deflected up (inlet are control) and down (AoA dependent). Dunno whether this can be reasonably simulated. It certainly needs the afm and ramps are probably the better choice.
I haven’t dealt with the afm content in detail and have yet to develope a proper database to implement it. No promises yet though, as my time is limited but I would like to expand on my previous work.
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Hi Manos,
do you talk about the movement schedules of the control surfaces? The elevons on the Typhoon, actually referred to as flaperons are used for pitch, roll and trim control. The outboard flaperons are used for pitch and roll and the inboard flaperons are used for pitch and trim. The LEF move i.a.w. mach number and AoA. The vary cowls on the inlets can be deflected up (inlet are control) and down (AoA dependent). Dunno whether this can be reasonably simulated. It certainly needs the afm and ramps are probably the better choice.
I haven’t dealt with the afm content in detail and have yet to develope a proper database to implement it. No promises yet though, as my time is limited but I would like to expand on my previous work.
For the flapperons (though a cutout “poster” i have refer to them as Elevons) i can dof them seperatelly (currently i have both in one dof for each side). Inner with 1 dof each declared as stabilator (picth control) for each side and the outer with 2 dofs linked as Stabilator+Aileron in sequence for pitch +roll movement for each side now about the trim i dont know if it is possible to animate. For the inlet cowls i vote for ramps as well but i want someone to help me about the table i posted to do a proper animation on them.
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You don’t need to bother about the movement schedule. Simply assign the correct function and movement limits. The rest is done with the dat files.
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Found an answer by Waveydave in F-4E/F thread when i was trying to fix the intake ramps of the Phantom but still i dont get it 100% anyone can help? Please?
"The tables take two key values, AOA and Mach
The table is arranged like so (it sucks because it has to be on one line)
[AOA Breakpoint count],[AOA BP1],[AOA BP2],[Mach Breakpoint Count],[Mach BP1],[MACH BP2],[DATA AOA1/M1],[DATA AOA2/M1],[DATA AOA1/M2],[DATA AOA2/M2]So you might use it like so:
1,0,2,0,.5,0,11 AOA BP count
0 AOA BP value (doesn’t matter, because there’s only 1)
2 Mach BP count
0 Mach BP value
.5 Mach BP value
0 dof value used at AOA 0’ and 0 Mach
1 dof value used at AOA 0’ and .5 Mach"EDIT: After squizing my brain and many attempts (unsuccesful) to make the intake cowls to move as they should i decided to drop the ramp thing and declare them as lef, as like that they will be AoA depended in every speed and by given limits in the dofs they shall be allright i believe ill test them tomorrow