TrackIR and widescreen
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Is there a recommended way to set up TIR for those with widescreen setup? I think for single screen, users want the response to activate earlier or more sensitive so I think for widescreen (3 monitors), less sensitive is better? Or bigger deadzone in the middle? Ideas please!
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Is there a recommended way to set up TIR for those with widescreen setup? I think for single screen, users want the response to activate earlier or more sensitive so I think for widescreen (3 monitors), less sensitive is better? Or bigger deadzone in the middle? Ideas please!
Not sure about TrackIR since I use opentrack, but I adjusted the curves so that when looking at the middle of the left or right monitor, I am viewing straight back to the six.
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Cant remember exactly where to find it maybe google but Yassy’s profile works excellent as is or use as a base profile make the adjustments you want save as exclusive and fly to your hearts content
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Is there a recommended way to set up TIR for those with widescreen setup? I think for single screen, users want the response to activate earlier or more sensitive so I think for widescreen (3 monitors), less sensitive is better? Or bigger deadzone in the middle? Ideas please!
A deadzone, ie zero output for a given input, will mean that you’ll be moving your head and when you hit the dead zone the player view will stop tracking until you physically move past the dead zone. This will be good at centre if you don’t have to worry about keeping your head still to prevent the view moving etc. however it will be annoying when trying to move a small amount. Personally, I avoid deadzones (well, I use them on my Cougar microstick, as it doesn’t centre well) and use smooth V curves so that output (sim view movement) is dampened around centre. Otherwise, the curve is a flat line giving linear movement once I’m beyond say 15-20 degrees from centre.
My curves are basically –—V–— shaped, with the tough above zero so that I still get some movement at centre.
If you have a profile that you like for the narrower screen, you can always simply shift the entire curve down in the TIR software, then adjust the centre bit so that it feels the same at centre, but you get less sim movement per physical head movement. In other words, when you look to the edge of your widscreen, you’re not looking past 6 O’Clock.
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My TrackIR profile is just a flat line in yaw. I move my head to the maximum I want to move it then adjust the entire line up and down (clicking up or down arrows) until output angle is as much as I want (e.g. 180°). This ensures that when I reach the limit of my input angle I am at the maximum desired output angle. If I can’t get my desired output angle then raise the line. If I get there too early lower the line.
This makes the least sensitive and most controllable response which allows full movement. I do not like “notches” or “dead zones” in TrackIR with Falcon BMS since there is nothing special about exactly centered in any angle or position and the “magnet snap” to one position feels weird.
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Might just be the hangover but I struggle to follow some of the advice. Maybe post screenshots of your profile? I start with Yassy but end up making my own.
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Cheers Frederf! I don’t understand how that works but will give it a try and find out!
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Frederf,
even if I’m satisfied of my own profile performance, a modification of that nice Yassi’s, your screenshot was most useful to make me understand a pair of matters about TIR settings. So, thanks a lot from me too.
With best regards.
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Wonder if TrackIR placement is taken in to computation when setting up? Example, trackhat user will have TIR at center of monitor, trackclip user will have TIR offset to left side. I think some people also have TIR behind them. Is it possible to have TIR at extreme left? Example, trackhat worn sideways and TIR at 90-degree to user’s front? Or more conservative example, have TIR on the side of monitor instead of top?
Is this possible to do in TIR? How to map so that when moving actual head forward, TIR translates movement correct? Thanks!
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I have TrackIR on velcro in upper left corner of center monitor nearly where you put green box. I also have head-left-side Pro Clip so naturally this minimzes the parallax.
To answer your question: essentially no. There is an option “true view” but it has to do with the mixture of rotation and translation. Naturalpoint makes lots of tracking systems including those with multi-sensor arrangements. These are the professional products which might have what you describe. The TrackIR consumer grade product is not so complex. This is a shame since that extra calibrated motion mapping to compensate for geometrical effects wouldn’t be too hard to compute.
I also wish that TIR would have option to freeze at last known head position or to revert (with smooth transition) to centered on signal lost. Right now it just goes derp. There is a lot of space for even a half decent competitor in this market.
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With TIR at center monitor, slightly left, TIR goes derp when I look down-left, possible losing clip LED lights, so thought of putting it on my touchscreen monitor instead but if put at top, will block view to main screens. So ideally, put at side as seen in picture, but just think if good idea or no?
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If you look from TIR’s camera view you’ll see the dots overlap. It’s probably the middle and high dot overlapping. It should help to max out the threshold slider to shrink the dots (active IR is plenty bright). Change the geometry of how the clip or heatset rests on your head. Twist the clip in “roll” which can help overlapping. Actually moving the TIR camera from the top corner to slightly lower isn’t going to help much if at all.
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Cannot roll the LED, using HAV clip with velcro stickers, so just up-down adjustments and have adjusted to lights don’t overlap. Adjusted TIR camera and LED clip for best result. I think I will try this config and see if workable.
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@reaper I am running a wide screen as well with my TrackIR 5. Yassy’s profile doesn’t solve the problem. I have experimented for many hours on many settings trying to desensitize the slightest bit of head movement when looking down in the cockpit. It is very frustrating chasing cockpit switches with your mouse. When looking straight ahead yaw is not a problem for stability. It is pitch down that is most troublesome. I just received my new WinWing ICP to eliminate some of the frustration using the mouse on the ICP. Having the ability to togggle freeze a focal point at any time would be great.
This is my current TrackIR-5 setting, still trying to improve it.
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Pressing F9 with TrackIR 5 will freeze the screen enabling easy use of the mouse to activate switches in the cockpit.
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In the hot list and Yassy’s thread I believe I have uploaded my version which is based on Yassy’s profile which makes it more easy - stable.
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@Arty Kneeboards?
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@mjones what about them?
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@Arty your link to the Hot List page did not show TrackIR setting info. It was about kneeboards,